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Old 29th Dec 2006, 6:05 pm   #1
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Default Philetta 273; running at 230v on 220v tap.

I have recently obtained one of these sets from Germany, model BD273U.

Like most AC/DC sets of this era there is a selector to allow the user to choose the correct domestic voltage. Rather than the wire with the nut common on British sets which was moved to the correct point on the dropper it takes the form of a plug. The voltage rating only goes up to 220v.

Will it do any harm to run the set on our domestic voltage ? given the 20 volts or so difference and would it be wise to modify the resitance in order make the set compatable ?

Alex

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Old 29th Dec 2006, 6:13 pm   #2
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Default Re: Philetta 273

It's better for the valves to run their heaters at the correct current. You could add resistance. Alternatively use a capacitor dropper instead of the entire dropper which will keep the heat well down.

The HT is not usually so critical.
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Old 29th Dec 2006, 7:33 pm   #3
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Default Re: Philetta 273

The simplest solution is to add another 200 ohms to the heater chain, which will drop 20 volts. As Jeffrey says, replacing the dropper with a capacitive or diode dropper will also work but this requires a bit more effort: http://www.vintage-radio.com/repair-...per-calcs.html

You can also include a smaller but higher wattage resistor in the mains lead to drop a bit of voltage.

You can run the set directly from a 240V supply, but this is likely to shorten valve life, not something you want to do with a UL41 output valve (if that's what it uses).

Good luck, Paul
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Old 31st Dec 2006, 1:20 am   #4
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Default Re: Philetta 273

Even easier is to just remove the wire from the voltage selector to tag on the dropper which is the junction of the 50R and 150R sections.
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Old 1st Jan 2007, 9:48 pm   #5
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Default Re: Philetta 273

Hi Retroaudio, as Paul suggests you could add an extra resistor in the mains lead. I bought from the pound shop a small extension lamp which consisted of a 13 amp plug a small length of 3 core cable and a lamp holder. To this I added a 13 amp socket and an oblong plastic box, big enough to fit the 13amp socket and lamp holder. I wired up the 13amp plug and socket in series with the "live"wire in the lamp holder. I found by inserting a 60 watt lamp into the lamp holder I could get 220v to feed any "like" radio with no effort. This way you dont alter the wiring of any set and you always have a "test rig" to hand when required. Just check the voltage when on load with the lamp in place as I've found some bulbs are prone to be out of tolerance and you may need a 40watt or 100watt instead of the 60watt lamp. Regards Brian. oops!. PS change the 13 amp input fuse for a more friendly 3 amp one.
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