UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Television Standards Converters, Modulators etc

Notices

Television Standards Converters, Modulators etc Standards converters, modulators anything else for providing signals to vintage televisions.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 26th Sep 2006, 12:44 pm   #41
ChristianFletcher
Heptode
 
ChristianFletcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: South Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 900
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

I cannnot actual find the link to buy the product on the website can anybody send me a link for this.

What is the actual part number for the low cost converter.

Regards Christian.
__________________
Every Silver Lining Has Its Cloud https://youtube.com/channel/UCvBpiuUUnErJlNBm6DWb3Ww
ChristianFletcher is offline  
Old 26th Sep 2006, 12:56 pm   #42
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,016
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Do you mean this?

http://www.auroravideosys.com/converter/

It's in the very first post in this thread. For UK use you'll need the SCRF405A.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is online now  
Old 26th Sep 2006, 8:32 pm   #43
ChristianFletcher
Heptode
 
ChristianFletcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: South Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 900
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

No I meant the link to buy it. But its sorted now.

Thanks Chris.
__________________
Every Silver Lining Has Its Cloud https://youtube.com/channel/UCvBpiuUUnErJlNBm6DWb3Ww
ChristianFletcher is offline  
Old 6th Oct 2006, 9:10 pm   #44
garfy
Retired Dormant Member
 
garfy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cornwall,UK
Posts: 25
Thumbs down Re: Auroras back in stock

Hello,
I bought an Aurora on September 22nd and it arrived today.
Parcelforce did there usual rip off routine with £5-14p Gorden brown fund and £13-50 for the parcelforce bar bill.
I sent a tube to Ameria for regunning for my Bush TV62 in January it came back in June.
They charge me £35-00 then lost it and to cut a long story short, in July they found it again and charged me £42-00.
I just paid up as i did not want any more hassle.
Regards
Garfy.
garfy is offline  
Old 6th Oct 2006, 9:38 pm   #45
chipp1968
Rest in Peace
 
chipp1968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Somerset, UK.
Posts: 2,356
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

thats interesting about the tube , seams reasonable price , Must have to pack it up very well?!
chipp1968 is offline  
Old 6th Oct 2006, 10:45 pm   #46
garfy
Retired Dormant Member
 
garfy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cornwall,UK
Posts: 25
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Hello Chippi,
Yes i double boxed it and the weight was just a little over 10Kg`s,and postage to America was £106.
It was sent to Hawk-eye tubes but they had an accident with it while regunning, but they managed to replace my tube with a new type American one which is a 14BAP type.
It`s the same except it does not require an ion trap and the heaters are 600Ma instead of 300Ma.
This cost $250 and postage by air freight was $88.[Total of £210]
So it went accross the Atlantic and back and all was fine UNTILL it came to Coventry where it got lost.
Getting back to the subject of the Aurora,this wieghs nothing compered to the Tube i sent at 10KG`sand yet the costs are crazy in proportion.
Regards,
Garfy.
PS Parcelforce only charged £8 fee and the rest of the cost £42 was VAT.
garfy is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 7:30 am   #47
evingar
Octode
 
evingar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Newbury, Berkshire, UK.
Posts: 1,770
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Quote:
PS Parcelforce only charged £8 fee and the rest of the cost £42 was VAT.
IMHO that is simply outrageous
I'm beginning to wonder if the "BVWS parts Department" idea could be applied here. ? i.e. the BVWS importing a job lot on a commercial basis. I'm sure a lot of folks wouldn't mind paying a bit more for the Aurora in exchange for a certain and quick delivery and a known fixed price. I'm sure if they were imported commercially, the cost in postage and tax would be nowhere near the figures mentioned here !
__________________
Chris
evingar is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 8:27 am   #48
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Unfortunately most imports are subject to VAT at 17.5%. So an item costing £240 imported from anywhere outside the EU will be charged £42 VAT. The handling fees don't look too bad when the VAT is much larger than the fee.

Bulk imports will keep down the postage and fees but you can't do anything about the VAT.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 8:45 am   #49
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,016
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Quote:
Originally Posted by ppppenguin
Bulk imports will keep down the postage and fees but you can't do anything about the VAT.
Bulk imports of auroras would mean only one VAT/ Import Duty collection fee (£13.50 according to garpy) though, or is this on a sliding scale depending on value?
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is online now  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 8:56 am   #50
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Quote:
Originally Posted by Station X View Post
Bulk imports of auroras would mean only one VAT/ Import Duty collection fee (£13.50 according to garpy) though, or is this on a sliding scale depending on value?
When I (and others) had an Aurora via Parcelfarce the VAT was actually substantially undercharged but the fee was £13.50. Via Royal Mail the VAT was about right but the fee was much lower. With a bulk import I have little doubt that the full 17.5% VAT would be levied on the entire batch but there would only be one handling fee. I don't know how the handling fee is calculated (flat? weight? value?) but I don't think there's much gain to be had from bulk imports of Aurorae.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 9:26 am   #51
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,016
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

From the Parcel Force website:-

Quote:
We have two levels of clearance fee for import parcels. There is a charge of £13.50 for express parcels imported through the EMS (i.e. International Datapost equivalent) and GLS (i.e. Euro 48 equivalent) networks and also for high value standard parcels (valued at over €1000). For all other import parcels, an £8 charge will apply.
So if ten Auroras were imported and the clearance fee per unit would be £1.35, a saving of £12.50. Of course the individual auroras would then have to be repackaged and posted on in the UK. This would eat into the £12.50 saving.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is online now  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 2:38 pm   #52
tubesrule
Hexode
 
tubesrule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan USA
Posts: 325
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Does anyone know if the VAT is on finished goods only? I know in some countries they do not put such high tarrifs on parts or sub-assemblies, so it is possible to ship pieces and have the final assembly done locally? Perhaps there is something here to explore, possibly having them built in the EU.

The only other way is to continue to drive the price down since the VAT is based on value. I can easily get the cost down by doing larger production runs instead of the smaller ones I'm doing now. The problem is with having inventory, and therfore cost, sitting around for to long. I don't want to do a 100 piece build only to have it sit around for a couple of years. If I had a better feel for the demand, this would be much easier to forecast, but that is always very difficult to predict. For instance, what is the demand at the current price? What would it be at $250? At $225? Is there a magic number I need to get to that would balance the production costs with the expected demand?

Just thinking out loud.
Darryl
tubesrule is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 4:03 pm   #53
Sean Williams
Dekatron
 
Sean Williams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St.Ippolyts, Hitchin, Hertfordshire QRA IO91UW
Posts: 3,515
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Hmm, a crafty way of avoiding import duty would be to ship the unit as a kit of parts.

How about having the board out of the case, to give a 3 piece kit?

VAT will be charged on all imports that show commercial value, as sadly HMG wants their share....

CHeers
Sean
__________________
Engineers make things work and have spare bits when finished
Sean Williams is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 4:19 pm   #54
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,016
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Quote:
Originally Posted by Station X
Hmm, a crafty way of avoiding import duty would be to ship the unit as a kit of parts.
Wouldn't the components used in the kit be subject to VAT?

Incidently I'm told that imported radios etc. made before about 1950 are zero rated for VAT. They have to have the tariff code 9705000090 put on the customs slip.

Commercial gods are exempt if worth less than £18 and gifts if worth less than £36.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is online now  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 4:41 pm   #55
tvden
Retired Dormant Member
 
tvden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Halesworth, Suffolk, UK.
Posts: 413
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

although I have a domino convertor, which is I would add excellent, I have been thinking about buying a Aurora as it has a built in testcard which is handy and cuts out buying a testcard generator, and will also do chan 4, I dont mind paying for the Aurora unit but when aprox another £50 quid gets slaped on it makes me think twice !!! den being tight
tvden is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 5:16 pm   #56
chipp1968
Rest in Peace
 
chipp1968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Somerset, UK.
Posts: 2,356
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

I think i wss lucky at £16 then
chipp1968 is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2006, 9:18 pm   #57
bobsterkent
Hexode
 
bobsterkent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Medway towns, Kent, UK.
Posts: 271
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

I got mine on Friday and it cost me £18:35 at the Parcel Farce depot, thats VAT and the handling charge in total. I must say it works really well on my TV 12
bobsterkent is offline  
Old 8th Oct 2006, 8:38 am   #58
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Quote:
Originally Posted by tvden View Post
I dont mind paying for the Aurora unit but when aprox another £50 quid gets slaped on it makes me think twice
Has anyone really been charged £50? I though the maximum was about £30 which is actually fair, even if you don't like the rules. Anything under £25 and you have done OK. most of us seem to have paid £16 to £30.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 8th Oct 2006, 4:44 pm   #59
evingar
Octode
 
evingar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Newbury, Berkshire, UK.
Posts: 1,770
Default Re: Auroras back in stock

Quote:
This is really strange, I know I have said this before but I still believe it to be true. I order pinball parts from america on a regular basis and have only been caught once for duty.
I think you have been lucky! I have ordered some odd things from eBay from the US and "got away with it" - but I noticed that if I ever ordered anything twice from the same place, I always get “stung” the second time! I suspect some kind of register is made
__________________
Chris
evingar is offline  
Old 8th Oct 2006, 9:23 pm   #60
garfy
Retired Dormant Member
 
garfy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cornwall,UK
Posts: 25
Exclamation Re: Auroras back in stock

Hello,
When i order things like DVD`s from America the post office deliver them with no charge whatsoever.
They handle weights up to 20kg`s then parcelforce take over.
So why do things like the Aurora end up going through parcelforce?
Confused,
garfy is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 8:39 pm.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.