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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
Location: Wiltshire, UK.
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The only reason I put them in removable holders is so I can charge the batteries outside the case.
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Octode
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Removing the antenna is not likely to be any better unless its a short circuit. You could try an external power supply, with 1,000uf cap close to the battery contacts. Maybe try the capacitor with the batteries. |
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
Location: Wiltshire, UK.
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Ok, one issue, I don’t have a external power supply
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
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And how do you reduce battery resistance?
By the way I have another original NiCad battery which holds about 5 mins of charge, and I don’t get any issues with that.
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Octode
Join Date: Mar 2020
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Resistance external to the cells might be improved by using thicker wires and better connections to the cells. Internal battery resistance would need to change to better cells.
A large capacitor close to the battery contacts of the phone would reduce the effective resistance. With the working battery connected, can you measure the voltage at the contacts with a scope? This should show the voltage drop during tx burst, 1 in 8 mark space ratio at about 217 hertz in a call, probably only for a short time during initial connection to the base station. Then see how this compares to your rebuilt battery. |
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Octode
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Factory used HP battery emulator power supplies, with voltage sense at the battery contacts. This would have been around 1995 for the 7500 so memory is a bit unreliable.
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
Location: Wiltshire, UK.
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Hmm, I don’t have a scope unfortunately but I might try the capacitor…
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
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On the multi meter, it shows that the new battery voltage drops from 6.65v to 6.45v
On the original battery the voltage is 6.27v and doesn’t drop at all. The phone only powers off when it gets reception.
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
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Also, when it scans for signal the voltage drops to 5.95v and 5.80 when it boot loops.
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
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What do you think I should do? Different cells?
I would like to get this phone working as soon as possible.
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Dekatron
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincolnshire, UK.
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It sounds like there's too much source impedance in the supply. Either the cells aren't up to the job (were they 'all' brand new? it only takes one bad one to muck things up) or there's resistance in the contacts of the holder/s.
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Tetrode
Join Date: Jan 2025
Location: Wiltshire, UK.
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Yes all the cells are new aaa battery’s.
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Dekatron
Join Date: Nov 2009
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I think you've got your answer. It's either that the cells, even though new, are not up to the job, or it's resistance in the holders or the wiring to them, which is more likely. You need to have them hard fixed/wired, ie, soldered together in a thing like that and arrange for them to be charged as one complete battery.
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