Help me identify this? - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

xMarrk96 · 3rd Jul 2018, 1:33 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm new here and I come with some questions regarding a Radiogram that I have inherited from an old family friend who sadly passed away.

He was a collector of vinyls, and had two Radiograms in his home (both appear to be in fully working order), but one of them (the one I have specifically) I don't seem to be able to find any information about what so ever.

Here is what I know -

Its a Murphy A907 SR;
It has a plate at the back (top of piece) with some numbers and letters (Serial Number?)

It has a stereogram (amp) inside, as well as a turntable.

It looks quite old but I couldn't tell you when/where/what.

I will attach some pictures and would be greatful if somebody could assist in identifying what I have here.

Thanks All!

Mark

ms660 · 3rd Jul 2018, 1:53 pm

It looks very similar to the Bush SRG140, the service info for the Bush SRG140 is available here:

https://www.service-data.com/product...50/1036/e10550

Lawrence.

paulsherwin · 3rd Jul 2018, 2:03 pm

Late 60s transistor stereograms like this used to be completely valueless only a few years ago - you'd have had to pay someone to take it away. There is a lot more interest now as a result of the vinyl revival. A transistor stereogram will be more reliable than the more fashionable and expensive portable record players like Dansettes, and will sound much better too. The only drawback is the sheer bulk, but that may not be a problem for people who like that late 60s / early 70s styling.

xMarrk96 · 3rd Jul 2018, 2:44 pm

Hi All<

Thank you for the replies; The system works fantastic, there doesn't seem to be any issues with general use, it could use a good cleanup (re-varnish maybe?), audio quality is fantastic (slightly crackly).

Any estimates on the age?

paulsherwin · 3rd Jul 2018, 5:07 pm

I don't have any service info for it, but the styling suggests it's from 1969 or 70. That is getting towards the end of the radiogram era - by the 70s, low end customers were buying "music centres" with separate speakers, while high end customers were buying proper hifi systems from people like Quad and Leak.

ukcol · 3rd Jul 2018, 9:01 pm

Ed Dinning says in the last post here that the Murphy A907SR is the same as the Bush SRG191.

The Bush SRG191 is on radiomusium here.

AC/HL · 3rd Jul 2018, 9:11 pm

It's the Murphy clone of the Bush SRG191: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...gram-454897276

AC/HL · 3rd Jul 2018, 9:13 pm

Must be true then!

paulsherwin · 3rd Jul 2018, 11:43 pm

Radiomuseum suggests it's from 1970 which fits with my guess.

ben · 4th Jul 2018, 3:04 pm

Deck looks like a bog standard BSR C123. Red sticker below will confirm, if you are curious enough!

xMarrk96 · 5th Jul 2018, 7:16 am

Hi All,

Many thanks for the help.

There isn't a red sticker below the deck or the actual piece, however I can see that it is a Murphy's version of the SRG191, it's definitely a lovely piece to have (in my opinion), just a quick one (for a vintage radiogram newbie); where would be the best bet for spare needles etc?

It's all working fine and I've had it checked and everything seems to be original (right down to the wiring), but obviously there comes a point where things may need to be changed.

Cheers

regentone001 · 5th Jul 2018, 10:59 am

Hi If that is a teak cabinet I wouldn't varnish it, just use some teak oil on it which will bring up the shine

Edward Huggins · 6th Jul 2018, 9:53 pm

Spare styli can be found from an online search - but rather than let us guess, what type of cartridge is fitted? It might say something on it like BSR SX6M.

PatMorgan · 25th Jul 2018, 7:55 am

I used to sell those in 1970/71 when I worked as a Saturday boy in the Co-Op, Woolwich!

Edward Huggins · 25th Jul 2018, 12:50 pm

Not sure of the outcome on this. We've not heard back from the OP in amost 3 weeks!

3rd Jul 2018, 1:33 pm	#1
xMarrk96 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Bishop Auckland, County Durham, UK. Posts: 3	Help me identify this? Hello everyone, I'm new here and I come with some questions regarding a Radiogram that I have inherited from an old family friend who sadly passed away. He was a collector of vinyls, and had two Radiograms in his home (both appear to be in fully working order), but one of them (the one I have specifically) I don't seem to be able to find any information about what so ever. Here is what I know - Its a Murphy A907 SR; It has a plate at the back (top of piece) with some numbers and letters (Serial Number?) It has a stereogram (amp) inside, as well as a turntable. It looks quite old but I couldn't tell you when/where/what. I will attach some pictures and would be greatful if somebody could assist in identifying what I have here. Thanks All! Mark Attached Thumbnails

3rd Jul 2018, 1:53 pm	#2
ms660 Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 13,454	Re: Help me identify this? It looks very similar to the Bush SRG140, the service info for the Bush SRG140 is available here: https://www.service-data.com/product...50/1036/e10550 Lawrence.

3rd Jul 2018, 2:03 pm	#3
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,947	Re: Help me identify this? Late 60s transistor stereograms like this used to be completely valueless only a few years ago - you'd have had to pay someone to take it away. There is a lot more interest now as a result of the vinyl revival. A transistor stereogram will be more reliable than the more fashionable and expensive portable record players like Dansettes, and will sound much better too. The only drawback is the sheer bulk, but that may not be a problem for people who like that late 60s / early 70s styling.

3rd Jul 2018, 2:44 pm	#4
xMarrk96 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Bishop Auckland, County Durham, UK. Posts: 3	Re: Help me identify this? Hi All< Thank you for the replies; The system works fantastic, there doesn't seem to be any issues with general use, it could use a good cleanup (re-varnish maybe?), audio quality is fantastic (slightly crackly). Any estimates on the age?

3rd Jul 2018, 5:07 pm	#5
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,947	Re: Help me identify this? I don't have any service info for it, but the styling suggests it's from 1969 or 70. That is getting towards the end of the radiogram era - by the 70s, low end customers were buying "music centres" with separate speakers, while high end customers were buying proper hifi systems from people like Quad and Leak.

3rd Jul 2018, 9:01 pm	#6
ukcol Rest in Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Harlaxton, Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 3,944	Re: Help me identify this? Ed Dinning says in the last post here that the Murphy A907SR is the same as the Bush SRG191. The Bush SRG191 is on radiomusium here.

3rd Jul 2018, 9:11 pm	#7
AC/HL Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heckmondwike, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 9,642	Re: Help me identify this? It's the Murphy clone of the Bush SRG191: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...gram-454897276

3rd Jul 2018, 9:13 pm	#8
AC/HL Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heckmondwike, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 9,642	Re: Help me identify this? Must be true then!

3rd Jul 2018, 11:43 pm	#9
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,947	Re: Help me identify this? Radiomuseum suggests it's from 1970 which fits with my guess.

4th Jul 2018, 3:04 pm	#10
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,498	Re: Help me identify this? Deck looks like a bog standard BSR C123. Red sticker below will confirm, if you are curious enough! __________________ Regards, Ben.

5th Jul 2018, 7:16 am	#11
xMarrk96 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Bishop Auckland, County Durham, UK. Posts: 3	Re: Help me identify this? Hi All, Many thanks for the help. There isn't a red sticker below the deck or the actual piece, however I can see that it is a Murphy's version of the SRG191, it's definitely a lovely piece to have (in my opinion), just a quick one (for a vintage radiogram newbie); where would be the best bet for spare needles etc? It's all working fine and I've had it checked and everything seems to be original (right down to the wiring), but obviously there comes a point where things may need to be changed. Cheers

5th Jul 2018, 10:59 am	#12
regentone001 Heptode Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Coventry, West Midlands, UK. Posts: 519	Re: Help me identify this? Hi If that is a teak cabinet I wouldn't varnish it, just use some teak oil on it which will bring up the shine

6th Jul 2018, 9:53 pm	#13
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,328	Re: Help me identify this? Spare styli can be found from an online search - but rather than let us guess, what type of cartridge is fitted? It might say something on it like BSR SX6M. __________________ Edward.

25th Jul 2018, 7:55 am	#14
PatMorgan Triode Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK. Posts: 24	Re: Help me identify this? I used to sell those in 1970/71 when I worked as a Saturday boy in the Co-Op, Woolwich!

25th Jul 2018, 12:50 pm	#15
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,328	Re: Help me identify this? Not sure of the outcome on this. We've not heard back from the OP in amost 3 weeks! __________________ Edward.