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Old 16th Jun 2021, 8:10 pm   #21
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Perhaps the Sphere-1 was the first which is what its wiki article asserts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_1 using two keys wired in series to provide a hard reset...

ASIDE: This machine is the one famously used by Scott Adams before he used the TRS-80 to write Adventureland. This is not as the story goes the earliest adventure game for home micros but, the port of the classic ADVENT for the HeathKit H8 was which was in August 1978, a few months earlier - https://bluerenga.blog/tag/adventureland/?order=ASC
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They are old Windows shortcuts. They may have been influenced by the Wordstar word processor under CP/M and DOS. (Posts crossed.)
Yes. As I recall they were in Windows 3 (say the Notepad program) launched in 1990. Also Word for Windows (1991) and Excel of similar vintage.

However, just found :-

Command
A - select all
Z - undo
X - cut
C - copy
V - paste

Were in MacWrite in 1984. Maybe came from Xerox?

https://vintageapple.org/macbooks/pd...Paint_1984.pdf
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It was Larry Tesler who invented ctrl c and ctrl v etc
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/tesl...obit-1.5470453

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Xerox PARC was massively important in the development of modern desktop computing, which is odd for a company which was primarily a photocopier manufacturer. Both Windows and the Mac interface were pretty much stolen from Xerox designs, and they also developed Ethernet, initially as a fast interface for their high end laser printers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)
If anyone is interested in this they might like the story of The Mother of all Demos as it came to be called. Douglas Engelbart demonstrated in a public auditorium his mouse, multitasking, windowed graphical display, remote file access, email, and word processing. This was in 1968. They used a $500,000 colour projector as used for NASA mission control.


"his presentation was described by one mesmerised attendee as "dealing lightning with both hands"."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJDv-zdhzMY


https://www.theregister.com/2018/12/...ts_demo_at_50/


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erox PARC was a research campus, they had a huge budget and appeared to just play themselves. It was after the fashion of Bell Labs.
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Old Today, 4:56 am   #24
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Several companies had advanced research labs, somewhat disconnected from their day-to-day business, with the remit to wander. Bell Labs and the Skunk Works were used as models.

The idea was to be able to create ideas for new product lines which could not be simply derived from their existing ones.

I saw a fatal decision at HP/Agilent when 'Process' became the management key word. They set up a process for deciding on the development of new products. You now had to have a written process document for every activity. You could only start a new development if you had collected marketing information showing that a number of major customers, when surveyed, had been asking for similar things. In one move this limited all future products to what the customers could imagine, AND ensured that what you did would be too late. Historically, all the products which made the firm great, and which made good profit, had had a surprise factor.

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