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26th May 2020, 7:00 pm | #41 | |
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
I think the only radio I have calibrated (as opposed to a digital readout) in MHz is the Hacker, and that is for the VHF/FM band.
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26th May 2020, 7:22 pm | #42 |
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Re: When did tuning dials change from M to KHz?
No, AFAIR both mine were marked 54 to 160, so that's 540 to 1600 KHz divided by 10.
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
Thanks Andy, I stand corrected.
I have just checked to refresh my memory, and my 1960s Japanese ‘tranny’ is actually scaled in two ways. On MW it’s 5(4) to 16, i.e. kHz /100, and on LW it’s 18 to 28 or kHz /10. Phil
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
Wasn't there a pre war radio with "Television
sound" marked at around 6 metres?
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
From 1946, but there was the Ekco A23 with its TV Sound channel
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
The Dynatron Tourist has an oddly scaler tuner, with metres one side & Megacycles on the other.
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
And what looks like a preset 1500m LW setting at the short end of MW!
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
Which may need retuning for 198kHz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3nfLxmmmCI
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I've seen the same style with a few different names, & other radios with the ablility to tune to 1500 meters.
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
From the 1940s, up to the early 1960s, the MW sets in Australia had the station callsigns marked on the dials, so Western Australia would have 6WA, 6DL, 6WF, 6WN,6PR, 6PM, 6IX, 6KY, & so on.
Other States were similar, & some radios had room for 2 or 3 States. A Shortwave band, if present, would usually be in Mc/s,but sometimes was in metres. After the influx of Japanese radios with 54----16 dials, locally made ones changed over. The old, pre-war stuff was more likely to be in metres. Comms stuff was almost universally marked in kc/s or Mc/s, except strangely, one of the last generation of radios from the Traeger company of "Flying Doctor" fame. The Telephone linesman at Turkey Creek had been given a Traeger to talk to the Lineyard in Wyndham, which had an AWA Teleradio 5a. Tuning around the same numbers that the frequencies were specified in (they had crystal locked Tx, tunable RX) gave no joy, so as the other Tech & I were passing by, we were asked to check. We messed with the radio for a while, then "the penny dropped"------the label on the dial said "m", not Mc/s! The Turkey Creek guy had been pretty much looking in the wrong place! Had I been a bit more experienced at the time, I might have recalibrated the dial roughly in Mc/s, but I wasn't, so we left it with him to try again. |
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
I find these sorts of questions/answers fascinating.
Radio one on 247 was before my time, but today would make sense in that they play something, 24/7. I also remember being given a faulty pocket radio as a child, 'Made in Hong Kong' on the rear, with double digits on the dial, with possibly x10 written on the tuning wheel? Shibuya I think was the brand. Interestingly, my Philco 333 & 444 have both kilocycles and metres on the dial, plus station names. This must have appeared quite upmarket for an affordable set(?) The Philips Philetta has kHz & MHz while our Bush VHF61 has metres on the AM bands, both from around 1957 though of course, from different countries. Both sets use today's convention for FM, with the Philetta having '100' at the far-left. We also have a Pilot set, with all the usual overseas stations, a few far-reaching ones aaaaand, Bournemouth! Looking at the humble selection of sets we have, metres appears to fade out circa mid-70's. Mark
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
I've seen a few pictures of 1920s-40s American Radios with with station call signs on the dial.
I guess the manufacturers would have had to have issued a different dial for every city, but if they were printed on cellophane like some older British ones, they could easily be changed. My Dad's Grundig Elite Boy had a decimal scale as an aid to tuning in, along with the Metre bands on Short Wave.
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28th May 2020, 2:17 pm | #58 |
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
VHF/FM channel numbers anyone?
I know they were used in some parts of Europe, but I don't know if the channel spacing and absolute carrier frequencies are standardized around the world to make channels viable as a universal concept. I think RNI announced its VHF/FM service for the Dutch audience as a channel number as well as a frequency.
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
Channel 44 100 Mc/s.
There was a thread about it fairly recently.
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Re: When did tuning dials change from Metres to kHz?
THe rest of us have had the jingles stuck in out heads for about half a century and the damned things won't shift!
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