Garrard turntable - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Dorian27 · 13th Sep 2018, 1:47 pm

Can any one tell me what model of Garrard turn table this is please, as I need the rubber roller for the platter. Or does any one know what other model roller might be the same, thanks.

Edward Huggins · 13th Sep 2018, 1:55 pm

This is a Garrard "Autoslim" (detachable headshell version) from c.1960/62. Note not Gerrard. What you are calling the rubber roller is actually called an Idler wheel. These can be easily searched. See also the Stickies above for restoring this autochanger. Many Garrard record deck versions of this chassis use the same idler wheel e.g. AT5, AT6, SP25, 3000.

John10b · 13th Sep 2018, 2:11 pm

Could it be an AT6?
There is a very good sticky on Garrard Decks, well worth a visit.
Cheers
John

Audio1950 · 13th Sep 2018, 6:00 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by John10b

Could it be an AT6?

No, as Edward has said, it's an Autoslim. The AT6 has a completely different arm.

Dorian27 · 13th Sep 2018, 6:16 pm

I don’t think it was the idler wheel that has the problem I think is the main cam the arm and platter very slowly go down on platter especially at 33 when on lp it then runs ok but also slow to return I borrowed an idler and it made no difference I then borrowed a cam and it now works ok any one know where I can get a cam from please

Michael Maurice · 13th Sep 2018, 6:35 pm

You need to remove the cam gear, the large metal cog under the turntable, remove all traces of old grease, before reassembling with fresh grease.

If you feel confident, strip the rest of the deck down, clean and relubricate when you reassemble.

If the problem re-occurs you will need a new or refurbished idler.

'LIVEWIRE?' · 13th Sep 2018, 6:39 pm

If, by the cam, you mean the large diameter toothed wheel under the turntable, the problem is most likely due to dried grease. A clean and re-lube should cure this. Pay particular attention to the Trip Pawl i.e. the two small levers near the outside edge of the Cam gear. These must be totally free of grease, and should, for want of a better word, rattle, when the gear is shaken. (Crossed with Michael Maurice)

Restoration73 · 13th Sep 2018, 6:39 pm

I think this is an AT5, as fitted to Murphy A851G. The headshell is deeper than the AT6/
SP25Mk1, as it has to be held in place by the clip above the speed control.

Edward Huggins · 13th Sep 2018, 7:01 pm

No, the Garrard AT5's tone arm is different. Just do an online search for photos of it and you'll soon see.

John10b · 13th Sep 2018, 7:11 pm

Thank you for putting me right, as I am no expert on Garrard decks, but can I ask you to,look at Sticky on Garrard Decks and the pic in #19, posted by GP49000, the pics look just like Dorians, with same arm and detachable cartridge.
Cheers
John

John10b · 13th Sep 2018, 7:17 pm

I stand corrected, I took a much closer look and I can see the arm is different.
Cheers
John

Station X · 13th Sep 2018, 7:22 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Huggins

No, the Garrard AT5's tone arm is different. Just do an online search for photos of it and you'll soon see.

Why not post a link Edward?

John10b · 13th Sep 2018, 7:48 pm

Yes Graham that would be most helpful.
Cheers
John

Restoration73 · 13th Sep 2018, 7:56 pm

Although we have not seen the platter in the photo, it would appear this is a Bush or
Murphy RP and the actual variant with a larger platter is known as AT5P.

Michael Maurice · 13th Sep 2018, 8:51 pm

Whichever deck it is, the pulley is the same.

13th Sep 2018, 1:55 pm	#2
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,339	Re: Turn table This is a Garrard "Autoslim" (detachable headshell version) from c.1960/62. Note not Gerrard. What you are calling the rubber roller is actually called an Idler wheel. These can be easily searched. See also the Stickies above for restoring this autochanger. Many Garrard record deck versions of this chassis use the same idler wheel e.g. AT5, AT6, SP25, 3000. __________________ Edward.

13th Sep 2018, 2:11 pm	#3
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Turn table Could it be an AT6? There is a very good sticky on Garrard Decks, well worth a visit. Cheers John

13th Sep 2018, 6:16 pm	#5
Dorian27 Heptode Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Carmarthenshire, Wales, UK. Posts: 569	Re: Garrard turntable I don’t think it was the idler wheel that has the problem I think is the main cam the arm and platter very slowly go down on platter especially at 33 when on lp it then runs ok but also slow to return I borrowed an idler and it made no difference I then borrowed a cam and it now works ok any one know where I can get a cam from please

13th Sep 2018, 6:35 pm	#6
Michael Maurice Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wembley, Middlesex Posts: 7,225	Re: Garrard turntable You need to remove the cam gear, the large metal cog under the turntable, remove all traces of old grease, before reassembling with fresh grease. If you feel confident, strip the rest of the deck down, clean and relubricate when you reassemble. If the problem re-occurs you will need a new or refurbished idler. __________________ Forum Moderator http://www.michaelmauricerepairs.co.uk/

13th Sep 2018, 6:39 pm	#7
'LIVEWIRE?' Rest in Peace Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: N.W. Oxfordshire(Chipping Norton) Posts: 7,306	Re: Garrard turntable If, by the cam, you mean the large diameter toothed wheel under the turntable, the problem is most likely due to dried grease. A clean and re-lube should cure this. Pay particular attention to the Trip Pawl i.e. the two small levers near the outside edge of the Cam gear. These must be totally free of grease, and should, for want of a better word, rattle, when the gear is shaken. (Crossed with Michael Maurice)

13th Sep 2018, 1:47 pm	#1
Dorian27 Heptode Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Carmarthenshire, Wales, UK. Posts: 569	Garrard turntable Can any one tell me what model of Garrard turn table this is please, as I need the rubber roller for the platter. Or does any one know what other model roller might be the same, thanks. Attached Thumbnails

13th Sep 2018, 6:39 pm	#8
Restoration73 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK. Posts: 2,801	Re: Garrard turntable I think this is an AT5, as fitted to Murphy A851G. The headshell is deeper than the AT6/ SP25Mk1, as it has to be held in place by the clip above the speed control.

13th Sep 2018, 7:01 pm	#9
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,339	Re: Garrard turntable No, the Garrard AT5's tone arm is different. Just do an online search for photos of it and you'll soon see. __________________ Edward.

13th Sep 2018, 7:11 pm	#10
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Garrard turntable Thank you for putting me right, as I am no expert on Garrard decks, but can I ask you to,look at Sticky on Garrard Decks and the pic in #19, posted by GP49000, the pics look just like Dorians, with same arm and detachable cartridge. Cheers John

13th Sep 2018, 7:17 pm	#11
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Garrard turntable I stand corrected, I took a much closer look and I can see the arm is different. Cheers John

13th Sep 2018, 7:48 pm	#13
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Garrard turntable Yes Graham that would be most helpful. Cheers John

13th Sep 2018, 7:56 pm	#14
Restoration73 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK. Posts: 2,801	Re: Garrard turntable Although we have not seen the platter in the photo, it would appear this is a Bush or Murphy RP and the actual variant with a larger platter is known as AT5P.

13th Sep 2018, 8:51 pm	#15
Michael Maurice Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wembley, Middlesex Posts: 7,225	Re: Garrard turntable Whichever deck it is, the pulley is the same. __________________ Forum Moderator http://www.michaelmauricerepairs.co.uk/