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Old 30th Nov 2020, 2:32 pm   #561
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Must admit I like the rural scenes in the programme - but the actual restoration work I don't believe for a moment is actually done there.
Oh? A lot of it you can actually see it happening here, and with a lot of the big or fragile items there's no point in transporting them elsewhere.
Mike it IS done there. That's a fact.
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I have to say I enjoyed the programme.

My only comment would be that the amplifier lacked bass.
Could that be because like everyone else, you were listening to the programme on a modern TV with dinky little speakers, or do you have the TV linked up to a better sound-system?

I was amused to see the review in The Guardian the following day, where the reviewer (I won't mention the name to save blushes) referred to it as a "stereo"? Through one speaker, now that would have been advanced technology!

(Yes, I know the term "stereo" gets used to refer to any kind of sound-system these days - ho, hum).

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- but the actual restoration work I don't believe for a moment is actually done there.
This has been discussed several times now on this Thread.
Maybe we can put this one to Bed.

The bulk of the work is definitely done on Site.

As those who have visited the Museum during production will attest too.




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Old 30th Nov 2020, 6:42 pm   #564
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I have to say I enjoyed the programme.

My only comment would be that the amplifier lacked bass.
Could that be because like everyone else, you were listening to the programme on a modern TV with dinky little speakers, or do you have the TV linked up to a better sound-system?

I was amused to see the review in The Guardian the following day, where the reviewer (I won't mention the name to save blushes) referred to it as a "stereo"? Through one speaker, now that would have been advanced technology!

(Yes, I know the term "stereo" gets used to refer to any kind of sound-system these days - ho, hum).

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It's a bit like people who evaluate hifi equipment by listening to them on YouTube videos - via their computer's internal speaker..
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Must admit I like the rural scenes in the programme - but the actual restoration work I don't believe for a moment is actually done there.
Why not?
Well a lot of the chemicals used are quite toxic e.g for silver, wood etc. The other thing is the surprising lack of mess and air cleaners. If you are sanding, soldering or welding for example you need extraction fans etc if you are cleaning things with solvents lots of rags and so on.
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The welding gear and the forge hearth are outdoors with shelter from rain. The processes indoors all seem rather small scale. I think all of us solder away, paint, and wipe things with solvents in much more restricted spaces than they have.

I don't see anything being done to a hazardous extent.

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I have to say I enjoyed the programme.

My only comment would be that the amplifier lacked bass.
I agree. We have our telly piped through the stereo (with nice Monitor Audio speakers) and the sound was all middle & top.
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Maybe because it was being used to receive a broadcast from a radio source set up especially for the programme.
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As Avocollector says - the lack of dust extraction equipment, the pristine clean floors etc., observed whilst the camera pans around a number of busy experts, tells me they are just posing. Recently I observed the horologist being filmed whilst delving into a delicate valuable clock, and a yard or two away the woodworking guy was merrily sanding away. Once or twice I've seen the toy repair wifies heaving out dollops of grotty stuffing - right next to the picture restorer who was delicately touching up a valuable painting. This just doesn't happen in real life.
I know of one well kent Forum chap who repairs & restores AVO's - who uses a special dust proof enclosure.

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As Avocollector says - the lack of dust extraction equipment, the pristine clean floors etc., observed whilst the camera pans around a number of busy experts, tells me they are just posing. Recently I observed the horologist being filmed whilst delving into a delicate valuable clock, and a yard or two away the woodworking guy was merrily sanding away. Once or twice I've seen the toy repair wifies heaving out dollops of grotty stuffing - right next to the picture restorer who was delicately touching up a valuable painting. This just doesn't happen in real life.
I know of one well kent Forum chap who repairs & restores AVO's - who uses a special dust proof enclosure.

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Yes, of course, such scenes are done 'for the camera' in order to create a cosy, 'busy bee' atmosphere. But it doesn't in any way change the fact that the repairs are done there. Between shoots I'm sure the Repair Shop experts would soon give someone a piece of their mind if the next worker was ruining their work somehow. People just don't seem to get the production and direction requirements for TV for the masses. Once again it's not a tutorial for nerds, what you see on the TV is largely orchestrated to be interesting to the masses, and one could easily (and we do!) pick many, many 'faults' with the programme if they sat looking for them. But rest assured, the finished objects have been restored by the people you see doing it. When the cameras aren't on them they probably get hammers and all sorts into action!
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I agree Stevehertz. We were contacted by the producers last year and again early this year to do Jukebox repairs. One of the conditions is that all work be done at the venue where the programme is filmed. We declined on both occasions, not wanting to lug lots of equipment and spares to the venue and also the fact we'd waste a lot of time and lose a lot of money doing it.
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I agree Stevehertz. We were contacted by the producers last year and again early this year to do Jukebox repairs. One of the conditions is that all work be done at the venue where the programme is filmed. We declined on both occasions, not wanting to lug lots of equipment and spares to the venue and also the fact we'd waste a lot of time and lose a lot of money doing it.
A friend of mine was also asked but declined for the same reason. He has plenty of work so wasn’t prepared to give that up.
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I agree Stevehertz. We were contacted by the producers last year and again early this year to do Jukebox repairs. One of the conditions is that all work be done at the venue where the programme is filmed. We declined on both occasions, not wanting to lug lots of equipment and spares to the venue and also the fact we'd waste a lot of time and lose a lot of money doing it.
Thanks for that confirmation.
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I also agree Stevehertz. After all, I'm sure we've all seen shots of Jay Blades sweeping up
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I also agree Stevehertz. After all, I'm sure we've all seen shots of Jay Blades sweeping up
Maybe I'm being unfair, but I do wonder what other purpose he serves on this programme...…...
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I also agree Stevehertz. After all, I'm sure we've all seen shots of Jay Blades sweeping up
Maybe I'm being unfair, but I do wonder what other purpose he serves on this programme...…...
He is the 'overseer'. The programme works better for having someone at the helm.
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Here are my thoughts, if anyone cares what I think:

The programme is produced by the BBC, so there is no money to be made by its popularity or lack of popularity.

The people who watch it get pleasure from doing so.

The people who bring items for repair presumably don't have to pay for those repairs (they probably couldn't afford it, anyway) and get pleasure from seeing their sentimental-value items brought back to best condition.

The experts doing the repairs usually seem to be true experts and presumably get paid to do their work; maybe they wouldn't get as much work if the programme didn't exist.

There are three groups of people benefiting from the programme, the audience, the people who own the items to be repaired and the repairers themselves.

So why are some of us knocking it? Just enjoy what you can.

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I do care what you think, Colin and I agree with you.

The only aspect of the programme I don't like is the imposition of rather hackneyed mainstream TV approaches to it.... the faked only-just-in-time and schmaltz they feel they have to add. It's as obvious as the faked waits while reality TV shows read out the results of voting just to make the tension higher. I don't see that any skill in restoration is needed to find these things just a little indigestible.

So, I'm not in their target audience, and I've only ever watched it on iplayer when there is an alert on here. But I can, and now often do, watch hour long videos of a craftsman machining a lump of metal, fixing a Hallicrafters or sowing a field. It takes effort to follow the video between the adverts.

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The programme is produced by the BBC, so there is no money to be made by its popularity or lack of popularity.
Don't you believe it. The modern BBC is under more coshes than it can count.
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Jay Blades is like representing 'us' as viewers, moving from expert to expert, peering over shoulders, asking clients about their background, asking questions on our behalf, the common man amongst the experts. A mother-hen if you like. He's an expert in his own right of course, being an upholsterer/furniture restorer. Before The Repair Shop, I recognise him from the BBC daytime show 'Money For Nothing' as the resident upholstery specialist. Similar to the show in question except it's about 'upcycling' junk, such as making fish tanks out of vintage tv's or steampunk door knockers out of silver candlesticks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b077nzdc
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