Round Nipper artwork wanted - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Boom · 24th Nov 2012, 3:18 pm

Hi this might be a bit of an ask.

I've bought an HMV horn gramophone to restore. The horn is solid but the paintwork is a mess from surface rust.

It has the remains of a CIRCULAR HMV Nipper label on the horn but the paint is too bad for me to restore. Attached is a photo of the original which measures some 1 1/2" diameter.

Has anyone got artwork or even a decent photograph of one of these labels from a similar horn?

Thanks in advance.

Boom · 24th Nov 2012, 9:28 pm

Getting there. I've found this one which is very similar.

Unfortunately the photo was taken at an angle so isn't right. The colours are also slightly different.

davidgem1406 · 24th Nov 2012, 11:13 pm

Here is another one that may help, in png and jpeg.
The png is in a zip archive.

Dave

MrElectronicman · 24th Nov 2012, 11:31 pm

Here's another example, not very good quality I'm afraid.

Boom · 25th Nov 2012, 1:48 pm

Many thanks David. That is not the one. The one on the horn shows Nippers gramophone partly outside of the circle as in David 1's picture but the colours are different in his one.

Audio1950 · 25th Nov 2012, 2:57 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom

The colours are also slightly different.

Dave, bear in mind that yours is probably approaching 100 years old, and was probably protected by a coat of shellac varnish, which has yellowed over the years, making it appear much darker than it would have been originally.

Barry

Boom · 25th Nov 2012, 4:19 pm

Indeed Barry. I have also just realised that what I assumed was a black band around the edge of the label could well be yellow which has severely discouraged with age so Daves might well be the correct label after all. I can't see any varnish but there isn't much paint left anyway.

davidgem1406 · 27th Nov 2012, 9:43 pm

There are rather to (too) many Davids / Daves here

The outside circle of your original according to my graphics package tends to be in the blue spectrum:
Red = 120, Green = 134, Blue = 147 the hex is #788693

It may have been dark blue originally.

This may or may not help, could add some confusion though.

Dave

24th Nov 2012, 3:18 pm	#1
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Round Nipper artwork wanted Hi this might be a bit of an ask. I've bought an HMV horn gramophone to restore. The horn is solid but the paintwork is a mess from surface rust. It has the remains of a CIRCULAR HMV Nipper label on the horn but the paint is too bad for me to restore. Attached is a photo of the original which measures some 1 1/2" diameter. Has anyone got artwork or even a decent photograph of one of these labels from a similar horn? Thanks in advance. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Boom; 24th Nov 2012 at 3:38 pm.

24th Nov 2012, 9:28 pm	#2
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Round Nipper artwork wanted Getting there. I've found this one which is very similar. Unfortunately the photo was taken at an angle so isn't right. The colours are also slightly different. Attached Thumbnails

24th Nov 2012, 11:31 pm	#4
MrElectronicman Heptode Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Washington DC, USA Posts: 619	Re: Round Nipper artwork wanted Here's another example, not very good quality I'm afraid. Attached Thumbnails __________________ David

25th Nov 2012, 1:48 pm	#5
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Round Nipper artwork wanted Many thanks David. That is not the one. The one on the horn shows Nippers gramophone partly outside of the circle as in David 1's picture but the colours are different in his one.

27th Nov 2012, 9:43 pm	#8
davidgem1406 Heptode Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sheerness, Kent, UK. Posts: 936	Re: Round Nipper artwork wanted There are rather to (too) many Davids / Daves here The outside circle of your original according to my graphics package tends to be in the blue spectrum: Red = 120, Green = 134, Blue = 147 the hex is #788693 It may have been dark blue originally. This may or may not help, could add some confusion though. Dave

25th Nov 2012, 4:19 pm	#7
Boom Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Westbury, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 2,451	Re: Round Nipper artwork wanted Indeed Barry. I have also just realised that what I assumed was a black band around the edge of the label could well be yellow which has severely discouraged with age so Daves might well be the correct label after all. I can't see any varnish but there isn't much paint left anyway.