Beocenter2200 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Bookman · 9th Nov 2017, 8:50 pm

Always one for reviewing alternative sounds I was able to purchase a nigh on new Beocenter2200 music centre. The sound from the radio would suggest a bit of quality is available but the turntable has me a bit perplexed.

When selecting phono the platter revolves nicely and the arm moves over to where it should drop down and begin playing. There lies the problem in that the arm does not drop.
I had thought that there may be transit screws for consideration but where are they? I have been advised to just lift off the platter but a couple of millimetres and that's it, no more.
Looking at the stylus (MMC5) it looks brand new and I am wondering if this thing has ever been set up.
I feel a bit daft putting such a fundamental question to the forum but ask I must.

60 oldjohn · 9th Nov 2017, 9:09 pm

Lift the turntable at one side to break the seal, it may be fastened with double sided tape. I will post pictures of my Beocenter 7002 which I believe is similar.

John.

frankmcvey · 9th Nov 2017, 9:11 pm

Hi, BM,

The Beocenter 2200 manual is here, and describes the setting up procedure. Good luck.

Cheers,

Frank

60 oldjohn · 9th Nov 2017, 9:22 pm

#2 does not apply to the BC2200, sorry.

John.

Bookman · 9th Nov 2017, 9:58 pm

Hi Frank,
Thanks for the manual but I did actually have one. It makes reference to finger holes and removable panels which seem not to exist? I used the word perplexed but should have actually said flummoxed.

Ambientnoise · 9th Nov 2017, 10:26 pm

Are the finger holes under the turntable mat ?
Take good care of that stylus, the cost of replacements will make your eyes water !

Ken

Bookman · 10th Nov 2017, 10:02 am

Hi Ken,
The holes could be under the turntable mat but the mat does not come off and eyes water yes plus the utterance of a few expletives.
Thanks
Joe

60 oldjohn · 10th Nov 2017, 11:26 am

Are there any instructions under the set? As I read it you are looking for a gap around the perimeter of the platter, to get a finger under and lift to break the Double sided sticky tape. I believe what you see is sitting on top of a metal turntable. I will include pictures of what I mean on my BC7002. Just two of the three small rectangular attachment points can be seen.

Good luck with it John.

I think the large plastic disk referred to in the instructions is what we call the platter, it is covering the turntable mechanism, just have to get a finger under it and pull it off.

Bookman · 10th Nov 2017, 11:39 am

Quote:

Are there any instructions under the set? As I read it you are looking for a gap around the perimeter of the platter, to get a finger under and lift to break the Double sided sticky tape. I believe what you see is sitting on top of a metal turntable. I will include pictures of what I mean on my BC7002. Just two of the three small rectangular attachment points can be seen.

Thanks John, I'll give it a shot.
Joe

Bookman · 10th Nov 2017, 12:40 pm

Well John your comments were sufficient to provide that leap of faith that was needed to exert a force more akin to a touch like a blacksmith. The aluminium platter was firmly attached but gave way eventually; phew?

This then revealed the plastic cover referred to in the manual. This in turn is glued to an aluminium spoked turntable; another phew? That fact notwithstanding there are three thumb screw type transit screws that need to be turned anti clockwise; which I did.
I reversed the procedure and switched on but the arm still did not drop. I therefore gave the pivot assembly a couple of blasts of WD40 contact cleaner. I also removed the platter cover again and manually operated the mechanism solenoids; just in case any were stuck.
Low and behold it worked first time. Currently, it's flexing its muscles with Sur la Mer by the Moodies. Quite apt given my current place of domicile.

Clearly, the manual ought have mentioned the possible need to given the platter a bit of a pull?

60 oldjohn · 10th Nov 2017, 1:03 pm

Pleased my input helped. Looks like the disassembly instructions are under the platter. I am pleased you have got it working, But I suspect not for long, If it is like most of the B&B kit I have dealt with the set will switch off after a few minutes. This is often caused by the two Bias pre-sets in the output stage, just need changing and setting up as per instructions. Maybe worth joining the Beoworld forum as a bronze member for free, silver and you can access all B&O circuits.

John.

Bookman · 16th Nov 2017, 3:24 pm

Here I am again but this time its the cassette player. I have obtained replacement belts from Germany and have removed the 6 screws labelled "B" in the base as instructed on the T/T platter disc cover.

Yes the Radio & Cassette cover does come away from the frame but not fully. It sort of hinges to the rear and I am wondering if there is yet another leap of faith required to exert that extra force so that the cover can be removed?
Can anyone provide more detail in this regard? Similarly, is there then a process that can be suggested that would provide for what should be a straight forward belt replacement activity?

9th Nov 2017, 8:50 pm	#1
Bookman Hexode Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Taunton, Somerset, UK. Posts: 318	Beocenter2200 Always one for reviewing alternative sounds I was able to purchase a nigh on new Beocenter2200 music centre. The sound from the radio would suggest a bit of quality is available but the turntable has me a bit perplexed. When selecting phono the platter revolves nicely and the arm moves over to where it should drop down and begin playing. There lies the problem in that the arm does not drop. I had thought that there may be transit screws for consideration but where are they? I have been advised to just lift off the platter but a couple of millimetres and that's it, no more. Looking at the stylus (MMC5) it looks brand new and I am wondering if this thing has ever been set up. I feel a bit daft putting such a fundamental question to the forum but ask I must.

9th Nov 2017, 9:11 pm	#3
frankmcvey Rest in Peace Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cottesmore, East Midlands, UK. Posts: 858	Re: Beocenter2200 Hi, BM, The Beocenter 2200 manual is here, and describes the setting up procedure. Good luck. Cheers, Frank

9th Nov 2017, 9:22 pm	#4
60 oldjohn Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 3,986	Re: Beocenter2200 #2 does not apply to the BC2200, sorry. John.

9th Nov 2017, 9:58 pm	#5
Bookman Hexode Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Taunton, Somerset, UK. Posts: 318	Re: Beocenter2200 Hi Frank, Thanks for the manual but I did actually have one. It makes reference to finger holes and removable panels which seem not to exist? I used the word perplexed but should have actually said flummoxed.

9th Nov 2017, 10:26 pm	#6
Ambientnoise Heptode Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Marlborough, Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 915	Re: Beocenter2200 Are the finger holes under the turntable mat ? Take good care of that stylus, the cost of replacements will make your eyes water ! Ken

9th Nov 2017, 9:09 pm	#2
60 oldjohn Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 3,986	Re: Beocenter2200 Lift the turntable at one side to break the seal, it may be fastened with double sided tape. I will post pictures of my Beocenter 7002 which I believe is similar. John.

10th Nov 2017, 10:02 am	#7
Bookman Hexode Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Taunton, Somerset, UK. Posts: 318	Re: Beocenter2200 Hi Ken, The holes could be under the turntable mat but the mat does not come off and eyes water yes plus the utterance of a few expletives. Thanks Joe

10th Nov 2017, 11:26 am	#8
60 oldjohn Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 3,986	Re: Beocenter2200 Are there any instructions under the set? As I read it you are looking for a gap around the perimeter of the platter, to get a finger under and lift to break the Double sided sticky tape. I believe what you see is sitting on top of a metal turntable. I will include pictures of what I mean on my BC7002. Just two of the three small rectangular attachment points can be seen. Good luck with it John. I think the large plastic disk referred to in the instructions is what we call the platter, it is covering the turntable mechanism, just have to get a finger under it and pull it off. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by 60 oldjohn; 10th Nov 2017 at 11:43 am. Reason: Added last line

10th Nov 2017, 12:40 pm	#10
Bookman Hexode Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Taunton, Somerset, UK. Posts: 318	Re: Beocenter2200 Well John your comments were sufficient to provide that leap of faith that was needed to exert a force more akin to a touch like a blacksmith. The aluminium platter was firmly attached but gave way eventually; phew? This then revealed the plastic cover referred to in the manual. This in turn is glued to an aluminium spoked turntable; another phew? That fact notwithstanding there are three thumb screw type transit screws that need to be turned anti clockwise; which I did. I reversed the procedure and switched on but the arm still did not drop. I therefore gave the pivot assembly a couple of blasts of WD40 contact cleaner. I also removed the platter cover again and manually operated the mechanism solenoids; just in case any were stuck. Low and behold it worked first time. Currently, it's flexing its muscles with Sur la Mer by the Moodies. Quite apt given my current place of domicile. Clearly, the manual ought have mentioned the possible need to given the platter a bit of a pull? Attached Thumbnails

10th Nov 2017, 1:03 pm	#11
60 oldjohn Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 3,986	Re: Beocenter2200 Pleased my input helped. Looks like the disassembly instructions are under the platter. I am pleased you have got it working, But I suspect not for long, If it is like most of the B&B kit I have dealt with the set will switch off after a few minutes. This is often caused by the two Bias pre-sets in the output stage, just need changing and setting up as per instructions. Maybe worth joining the Beoworld forum as a bronze member for free, silver and you can access all B&O circuits. John.

16th Nov 2017, 3:24 pm	#12
Bookman Hexode Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Taunton, Somerset, UK. Posts: 318	Re: Beocenter2200 Here I am again but this time its the cassette player. I have obtained replacement belts from Germany and have removed the 6 screws labelled "B" in the base as instructed on the T/T platter disc cover. Yes the Radio & Cassette cover does come away from the frame but not fully. It sort of hinges to the rear and I am wondering if there is yet another leap of faith required to exert that extra force so that the cover can be removed? Can anyone provide more detail in this regard? Similarly, is there then a process that can be suggested that would provide for what should be a straight forward belt replacement activity?