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Old 7th Jun 2022, 10:52 am   #1
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Default Scam PMs from new members

stvn123 has sent the same format PM to several people who have recent wanted requests:

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Have you checked with lisa via [AOL email address removed], he has a [item you were asking for] he wants to part with
stvn123 has now been banned.

Please be very wary of responding to such messages from any new members with zero posts, or emailing the address included.
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Old 8th Jun 2022, 9:05 pm   #2
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Interesting how they combine a real posted subject with their spam/scam. Brobably bot software or how this is called.
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Old 8th Jun 2022, 9:33 pm   #3
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No, there are people paid to post this stuff. They register on forums then send PMs to members directed towards their interests. Anybody who gets an unsolicited PM from a new member with a low post count should view it with great suspicion.

There's not a lot we can do about this that doesn't introduce additional problems.
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Old 9th Jun 2022, 9:10 am   #4
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I have added a restriction to these members with no posts, they can now only send one PM every 10 minutes. This should slow down the scammers so they hopefully give up, without losing the PM facility completely for new members that need it.

Of course they can still send one scam PM before hitting the restriction, and may persist anyway, so this doesn’t mean the problem has gone.
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Old 9th Jun 2022, 7:55 pm   #5
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 9:43 am   #6
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i received one of these messages and somewhat embarrassed to say I was taken in by it this was before Paul had launched this Thread.

In this case I am unsure what the scam intention was ?

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Old 10th Jun 2022, 10:52 am   #7
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In this case I am unsure what the scam intention was ?
What action did you take? Presumably the idea was that you would contact the person whose email address was sent and send him some money to pay for the thing you were looking for. He would then disappear and never be heard from again.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 10:57 am   #8
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Generally speaking, the initial contact will be from a low level scammer. If you respond the contact will be passed on to someone higher up the food chain who will assess your vulnerability based on your response. Typically the senior scammer will try to get you to send money or supply bank details.

There is a whole ecosystem of internet fraud, with so called 'sucker lists' being traded and groups working together.
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I did make an enquiry to the provided email address but my sent email bounced back very quickly saying "undeliverable", so at that stage started to think that something was fishy.

Hope I am not on the "sucker list"

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Old 10th Jun 2022, 12:03 pm   #10
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Some of them are just plain incompetent. You don't get criminal masterminds sitting in internet cafes in Lagos or Mumbai all day doing this sort of thing.
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Old 10th Jun 2022, 12:17 pm   #11
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Even if you don't get to the attention of someone who does the main scam, you can wind up on mug lists and lists of known valid email addresses which get traded around. So be extra careful of incoming emails. You've put your head over the horizon.

Hopefully that bounce message was a real one meaning that they never got your address.

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Old 10th Jun 2022, 12:41 pm   #12
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It's possible that the email address or domain was blacklisted somewhere.
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Old 12th Jun 2022, 6:28 am   #13
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We pretty much got hit with the exact same scam on Antique Radio Forums a while back.
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Old 12th Jun 2022, 6:45 am   #14
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The big giveaway is usually the style of writing and the poor or strange English.
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Also immediately wanting to take the discussion off the forum onto email should be a red flag.
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Old 13th Jun 2022, 1:23 am   #16
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I've just took a sample of about ten members at random and with the exception of moderators, all of them had Email reception enabled using the forum as a proxy.

That included myself!

I've now disabled "Receive Email from Other Members". Wouldn't it be better if this was the default condition?

If someone wants a members direct email address, they can always use the forums messaging service and ask.
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Old 13th Jun 2022, 1:33 am   #17
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A certain amount of descretion is needed by members I would think.
After all, if we visit here relativly often, we know who is another regular and who is not.
If you dont know the name, or seem suspicious, simply redirect, it, their, whover email it is back to the forum. Im sure any scams will be picked up.
Its been mentioned already:
NEVER give your personal info to anybody.
Not even another forum member, UNLESS you KNOW who and what they are.

Its NOT rocket science!!!.

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Old 21st Jun 2022, 10:25 am   #18
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Bumping this thread. This is an ongoing issue. Please take care.
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Old 21st Jun 2022, 10:47 am   #19
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Yes I received a PM this morning and smelled a rat.
A simple search first, revealed enough info for me, so no response was sent to it.
This is a good site to search for and moderators / admins to log banned nefarious forum users.
I use it as I moderate elswhere.
https://www.stopforumspam.com/
Thanks to the staff for prompt action.
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Old 21st Jun 2022, 11:50 pm   #20
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Another form that I moderate checks all new users against the Stopforumspam database using their API.
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