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7th Jul 2017, 4:36 pm | #21 |
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7th Jul 2017, 4:54 pm | #22 |
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Re: Dial 999: 80 years of emergency calls
Not specifically hospitals: 2222 is the standard emergency-contact number for MoD bases/Government facilities as well as loads of quasi-gov places [research labs, nuclear plants, palaces...]
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7th Jul 2017, 8:38 pm | #23 |
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For universities, a quick google shows:
UCL London 222 Aston 222 or 2222 (apparently either works) Glasgow, Gilmorehill 4444 or Garscube 2222 (and matching DDIs) Nottingham 8888 Heriot Watt (Edinburgh campus) 2222 (Malaysia campus) 2222 Edinburgh 2222 Stirling 2222 KCL (London) 2222 Queens Belfast 2222 USQ Australia 2222 Twente Netherlands 2222 In 2004, 34 per cent of hospitals in England used 2222 for another purpose (i.e. other than 'crash calls'). 2222 in hospitals should be standardised for crash calls. http://www.nrls.npsa.nhs.uk/resources/?EntryId45=59789 https://www.theguardian.com/society/...spitals.health A lot of police forces/stations had 222 based numbers, eg Leicester had 0116 222 2222, Dorset 01202 222 222, West Yorkshire 01924 375 222, |
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Of course, none of this was documented, so a pinch of salt is necessary... One other point raised regarding 911. According to aforementioned first-aid instructor (ex-Army, working for 'Develop' at Easingwold) it was considered that it may be introduced in the UK. Why? Because the youth of today is brought up on US-based TV and are familiar with the US emergency number. Pinch of salt again, mind!
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8th Jul 2017, 12:40 am | #25 |
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There have numbers issued in Nottingham starting with 911.
Really, come on. If you're going to use the same numbers people see on foreign TV programmes, why not just make it 001-809-563-0000? (Only people of a certain age will get this .....)
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Nothing to stop us using 112, or assimilating 911. In a connected world whatever first comes to mind. In the past I've noticed PAX phones with other emergency numbers on the dial label, 222 possibly but it was some time ago. A bit quicker than 999 on a dial phone.
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6345789 Just about anything beginning with 555 |
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8th Jul 2017, 1:10 am | #28 |
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There are numbers/ranges reserved for film/TV work here too. American 555 numbers are better known through long term exposure, but you won't get far ringing them in an emergency!
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I found this interesting, and it does show that if one is dialling from a landline and was unable to speak, dialling 112 rather than 999 may just save your life. This stems from the "Phantom dialling" problem that we've been discussing and the slightly different protocol the operator follows for 999 vs 112 It's also worth mentioning that this is the nearest I could find to a definitive document on "Silent Solution" yet it contains the phrase "It is understood that" no less than seven times. https://tinyurl.com/ybgu3qva |
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8th Jul 2017, 8:24 am | #31 |
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Fake numbers in the UK often have the STD code 01632. 0632 was the old, old code for Newcastle on Tyne, already superseded by 091 by PhONEday.
If they needed two towns for a plot device, I'm sure there are other fake STD codes they could use, based on other cities where 7-figure numbers were introduced.
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However... On a modern switch it's easy to translate an assigned number to something else. It's also easy to re-allocate local (and not-so-local) codes with a little planning and forewarning, as has happened before. It's just another 'PhoneDay', after all. And what's wrong with the concept of an international emergency number rather than just a pan-European one (and not one susceptible to random line pulses caused by, typically, the elderly and infirm trying unsuccessfully to replace a handset on a loop-disconnect compatible system)? We have international Mayday and Pan-Pan calls on the radio, so why not on the landline too? Granted, the engineering is rather more clear-cut and easier dealt-with than the political aspect.
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1. Ofcom has not selected a telephone number range for all geographic area codes, as it has to ensure that there is sufficient numbering capacity available to meet future requirements for 'real' telephony purposes. Telephone numbers recommended for drama purposes cannot be allocated to communications providers for their customers because of the potential influx of calls that customers might receive should their telephone numbers be shown in a drama. 2. Ofcom suggests using numbers in the 01632 range (no area code) for any geographic area code not listed. 3. The use of any telephone number in the ranges below does not imply that the number has been allocated. The numbers will not be allocated to communications providers in the foreseeable future. Geographic area code Telephone number range (1000 numbers in each range) Leeds 0113 496 0000 to 496 0999 Sheffield 0114 496 0000 to 496 0999 Nottingham 0115 496 0000 to 496 0999 Leicester 0116 496 0000 to 496 0999 Bristol 0117 496 0000 to 496 0999 Reading 0118 496 0000 to 496 0999 Birmingham 0121 496 0000 to 496 0999 Edinburgh 0131 496 0000 to 496 0999 Glasgow 0141 496 0000 to 496 0999 Liverpool 0151 496 0000 to 496 0999 Manchester 0161 496 0000 to 496 0999 London 020 7946 0000 to 7946 0999 Tyneside/Durham/Sunderland 0191 498 0000 to 498 0999 Northern Ireland 028 9649 6000 to 9649 6999 Cardiff 029 2018 0000 to 2018 0999 No area 01632 960000 to 960999 Other telephone numbers Telephone number type Telephone number range (1000 numbers in each range) Mobile 07700 900000 to 900999 Freephone 08081 570000 to 570999 Premium rate services 0909 8790000 to 8790999 UK-wide 03069 990000 to 990999 And then you find 0161 715 XXXX is used for 'Coronation Street' for 'Weatherfield' which isn't in the list above. |
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8th Jul 2017, 5:03 pm | #34 |
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I thought that 9 was used as the first number because on many private exchanges connected to the public system you often had to dial 9 to get an outside line.
The US used 11 after the 9 as it was quicker to dial two 1's than 9's. and every second could be vital in an emergency. John |
8th Jul 2017, 6:06 pm | #35 |
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How do mobile phones manage to make emergency calls only, when there is no signal?
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8th Jul 2017, 6:10 pm | #36 |
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They don't.
But under certain conditions [for example overloaded infrastructure or during network maintenance] the network-provider may prevent normal calls being placed and only allow emergency calls or calls from pre-nominated mobiles [such as those used by the emergency services]. Equally, some providers will allow emergency-calls from a phone when its credit for making normal-calls has run out. |
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On a slightly different tack, in bygone days of local codes between main exchanges and their satellites it was common to require a 9 before accessing a number from the main exchange - including for the emergency service. When I lived in the Oxford exchange area the emergency number from Oxford itself was actually 99 (a fact that I discovered by accident by double-dialling the initial 9 of a local code* and being rather shocked to be asked "Emergency, which service please?") so that the satellites were able to dial 999 without an extra access digit. *As I recall I was dialling a Witney number, which needed to prefixed by 97.
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The UK was slow to implement this ability to call 999 on any available network compared to many other countries, I think it's been in place for less than 10 years. |
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8th Jul 2017, 8:44 pm | #39 |
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Same with Whitehaven. Been there; done that...
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