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20th Mar 2017, 5:23 pm | #1 |
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When were these made ?
I have these various items and would like to know the year they first went on sale.
Philips Discoverer TV (AX1 Chassis IIRC) Philips 4307 4track R-R Philips VR2022 VCR Philips Laserdisk, VLP600 & 700 Hitachi VIP101P CED player. Commodore PET 4032. computer. There may be more to date during the next few weeks. TFL, John. |
20th Mar 2017, 8:02 pm | #2 |
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Re: When were these made ?
We built Commodore PET 4032 for the European markets in Eaglescliffe from 1973 onwards. Over the following 4 years they went through many revisions and we had several back for up-version rework.
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20th Mar 2017, 8:38 pm | #3 |
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Re: When were these made ?
Thank you Collin, That is a lot earlier than I expected, thank you. I am trying to glue the long really thin foil strip badge back under the screen, It has already split once I wish they were still available.
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20th Mar 2017, 8:41 pm | #4 |
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Re: When were these made ?
I have difficulty believing that date for the Commodore 4032, given that neither the 6502 microprocessor nor the 16K*1 DRAMs were available in 1973.
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20th Mar 2017, 8:55 pm | #5 |
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Re: When were these made ?
I used to work part time for a Computer dealership (in Torquay) and my memory was that we stated to get the PET2001 in very late 1977 and the PET4036 in around 1980.
Could be wrong Cheers Mike T
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Re: When were these made ?
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http://oldcomputers.net/pet4032.html
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21st Mar 2017, 8:04 am | #7 |
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Re: When were these made ?
My apologies, I overlooked the model number. In fact, the 4032 was released in October 1977, the year I left Commodore.
Once more, apologies for misleading you - a senior moment. Colin |
21st Mar 2017, 8:55 am | #8 |
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Re: When were these made ?
Thank you, Anyone have a list of Philips products, with dates. ?
John. |
21st Mar 2017, 4:02 pm | #9 |
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Re: When were these made ?
My copy of the Philips N4307 service manual is dated July 1968, hope that helps.
Now, this will amaze you. Tucked away on my test media shelf is a pristine copy of the Pioneer GGV1011 Reference Laser test disk. It doesw not look as though it has ever been used. Regards. Kevin |
21st Mar 2017, 10:12 pm | #10 |
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Re: When were these made ?
When were some of of the other items made? I can help with a few dates.
The Philips Discoverer TV - uses the GR1AX chassis. I remember seeing the Discoverer advertised on MTV Europe satellite TV channel in 1991. The advert showed the set in the home of a motorcycle enthusiast (it's shaped like a crash helmet). It was marketed as "YourTV", a television to match your personality. The Hitachi CED player - are you sure the model number is correct? I reckon it's this one. According to cedmagic.com , all the PAL CED players came out in 1983. They were a marketing flop and soon disappeared. I own the above two items. I also remember the Philips VR2022 video recorder. Video 2000 system, which used double-sided cassettes, about the same size as VHS but not compatible. Another flop, Video 2000 was launched in 1980. |
23rd Mar 2017, 11:02 am | #11 |
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Re: When were these made ?
Thank You, Kevin and Hamid1 that has helped me a lot. CED is VIP101P. I think your date will apply to this player. I suppose not many test disks around now.
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24th Mar 2017, 12:44 pm | #12 |
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Re: When were these made ?
Hi John,
Philips 2000 system was advertised long before it appeared for sale due to delays caused by a number of technical problems. If memory serves we started selling these first quarter of 1980. Reliability was poor. In that time VHS and Betamax had firmly established themselves in the market. Like all Philips products the Laserdisc release date has a question mark over it, but according to my records these appeared in the Autumn 1980 product range. Expensive, limited titles and disc quality issues, with dropout being the main complaint. Disc degradation became a problem too! These players had a high power laser making service and repair interesting. As it was the only disc in the workshop, all the engineers knew Animal House backwards! Rich
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26th Mar 2017, 12:54 am | #13 | |
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Re: When were these made ?
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That said, I would guess the GR1AX helmet TV went on sale around 1990 and the VR2022 videorecorder around 1981/1982 (short lived predecessors were VR2020 and VR2021). The VLP players will be from the early 1980's. In general, but especially for VCC and VCR videorecorders, I collect serial numbers of Philips sets (along with the full type number of the set, such as VR2022/05). I can also show how to decode the manufacturing date from them. |
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