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Old 2nd May 2020, 12:01 pm   #21
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I was always fascinated by those clocks, got the old one out of our cooker when I was 10.
 
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Thank you for the kind words!

I've only been at this house for a few months, so I'm still settling in. There is a very comprehensive modern RCD fusebox yet most of the sockets and switches were not updated and are vintage 60s/70s MK and Ashley items. The cooker hasn't tripped its RCD so far, but we'll see how we go. It has replaced a modern Belling freestanding halogen hob cooker that came with the house and has now been retired (!) I do already have a working Hotpoint washing machine which is probably a similar age to the EE cooker.

I'm not sure what vintage the cooker control unit is. I thought in fact it was a little modern (1970s?) and was on the lookout for something a shade older. The neons are very tired and barely visible. If someone tells me it's a 60s unit then I'll clean it up and keep it!

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Old 3rd May 2020, 2:07 am   #23
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Steve .
It’s as far as I’m aware mid 70s. Infact the same design was still available not long ago and may be still available
The one you want has smaller more rounded switches also the centre was more rounded.
About a year ago I removed one from a house that was built in 1968. I decided to keep it. I can’t think where I put it. I will have a look in case you want it.
Also most of the earlier MK ones didn’t have neons. You had the option but not many people wanted to pay the extra. Andy
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Thanks Andy, if that unit does turn up then do let me know.

I wonder if the earlier style unit you referred to is as per attached...
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That looks a lot closer to the one we had when I was young. The house was built in the 1950s. The one in the photo looks NOS.
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Steve .
I’m pritty sure the one I have is in my stash at my parents I will look later or tomorrow.
Yes the one in the picture is Infact probably later 60s possibly even very early 70s again most at the time didn’t have neons.
My parents house was built in 62 and my father who was an electrician installed a similar one to the picture but it had round neon indicators. It’s the only one I have ever seen with round neons I remember him saying the neon version was quite a bit more money so most people would not pay the extra Andy
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My parent had a similar cooker switch until they had their kitchen refitted in 2007, the only difference was it had no neons.

The house was built in about 1973, & we moved there in 1979. The kitchen was extended the year after, but I think the switch was reused.

I imagine the neons would get worn out as most people keep their cooker turned on all the time.

My parents also had a similar shaver socked fitted in their bathroom, which was also reused during another extension & was eventually replaced in 2010. The neon stayed bright because my Dad would always turn it off when it wasn't in use.
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This MK CCU was very popular in the sixties too.

Easier to fit, as it only came in the surface mounting design.
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Just happened to spot a photo of that rarer round neon MK outlet....
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That’s a great job Steve, well done!

To keep our 39 year old Belling Classic working I get the spare parts from:

PJ Sisman Electrical, Wicker, Sheffield.

Always worth a try for old or unusual parts.

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Thank you Peter, duly noted!

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Steve yes that’s the one with the round neons. At least early 60s . Can’t be many around . I found the one I got. I think it will clean up ok at worst the plate might want respraying . Message me if you want it FOC just postage . Andy
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A very kind offer, Andy. Thank you. Message duly sent.

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Found this completely by accident on the internet.

It appears that MK make a modern, up-to-date version of their classic large wall-plate CCU!

I wish I had seen this before I had the modern smaller size put into my kitchen!
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A friend who lives in Edinburgh and who I normally visit every year, has one of the original large plate MK cooker units with the switched socket and the round neon lamps. The house was built in the early 60's and apart from a new fuse box a couple of years ago has the original wiring, sockets and switches. Both neons were working and bright when I was there last December and are "on" continuously.
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A friend's flat had the MK surface model (post 29) but with the BS 546 15 Amp socket.
A surface pattern BS1363 socket had been fitted alongside, as a spur.

I'm still looking for a cooker point for my late-'30s Jackson. I have a wooden one, but I'd prefer a metal type, which I could re-spray to match the bluish enamel of the cooker.
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Am I right in thinking taht because the 13A socket had a fused plug one could feed them from almost any source, say 40A fused 6mm cable, or larger?
 
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Probably a daft question, but why were those cooker control switches so big?
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Probably a daft question, but why were those cooker control switches so big?
I suppose a non-mechanically-minded person could turn on the whole cooker, then switch it off at the wall!
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Probably a daft question, but why were those cooker control switches so big?
They have to connect to big wires I suppose, it would be a right pain in the posterior to fold those wires into a small back box.
 
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