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Old 25th Jun 2021, 9:26 am   #1
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Default Stylus for PYE Play Boy record player.

Hi, I want help with getting a Stylus for a PYE playboy record player. It was purchased in 1965 in Ireland. It has a BSR deck if that is of help. Would I need more information or a part number so I could order same . Any help would be very much appreciated. Regards, Dick.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 10:34 am   #2
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We can't suggest a correct stylus until we know what type of cartridge is fitted - is there a name or number on it?
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 11:00 am   #3
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Default Re: Stylus for PYE Play Boy record player.

Any chance of a picture of the Pye Playboy? I've never seen one. Long legs I bet!
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 2:14 pm   #4
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No, there are no long legs - I should know, I designed!
We need to know the type of cartridge now fitted to advise as to the stylus.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 7:58 pm   #5
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Hi Edward, This is my first record player to try and replace a stylus. I do not have it in my posession at present but will have it in the next few weeks so I will examine it in more detail. Thanks for replies so far, Dick.
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Old 25th Jun 2021, 8:16 pm   #6
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Default Re: Stylus for PYE Play Boy record player.

More info here: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=141834

The original cartridges were either BSR TC8M or a UTM ElectroVoice PowerPoint (whose stylus could not be replaced), but as our Pye expert says, it could have been changed for something else many moons ago.

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Old 28th Jun 2021, 6:43 am   #7
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No, there are no long legs - I should know, I designed!
That's great, so you worked for Pye? Also did you design the electrics/chassis or the exterior or everything?
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I designed the cabinet and specified the coverings, fittings and acoustic porting.
This then determined the chassis size and the maximum sized speaker for it.
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 8:36 pm   #9
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hi again, The record player eventually got to me. It has a bsr c 1 catridge fitted. It seems as if someone had tried playing it with no stylus, so I may have to get the catridge and stylus complete.Is there any such thing available any more, any help would be most welcome. Regards, Dick
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 10:17 pm   #10
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I would check your original cartridge first, as it's a stereo compatible ceramic type.

A Chinese ceramic would replace it, but then you'll have to check and possibly alter the tracking weight.

Post a clear picture of what you've got.
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 11:50 pm   #11
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Default Re: Stylus for PYE Play Boy record player.

The BSR C1 originally came with ST3 or ST4 stylus. These have two tips, one for playing vinyl LPs and 45s and another for 78s/gramophone records.

You can also use ST12, ST14 (as above, if you have 78s/gramophone records).

If you dcon't plan on playing 78s, then best value is the ST15 (two vinyl tips, so when one wears out you can flip the stylus over to the other tip).
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 5:58 am   #12
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The Playboy used two amps over its life. The first was a basic EL84 type, then 2 years later came an ECL82 version. The (non-original) BSR C1 cartridge will only work well with the latter. The build quality of these amplifiers would put any Dansette amp to shame!
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Old 8th Oct 2021, 2:20 pm   #13
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Hi again, I have an st 10 stylus, would this work in the c1 cartridge. Regards, Dick.
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The BSR ST10 is a low compliance stylus. Don't use it on your best Stereo records. Fine for most Mono records.
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Great little record player and if I remember did very well in a WHICH report back in the early 60s. Still have one and the 2nd version?
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Old 9th Oct 2021, 6:26 am   #16
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Good to see this again as it looks to be in excellent condition and with no serious dents in that metal mesh grille. It was a good idea to specify this type of grille as it had excellent acoustic transperency and certainly looked classy, but was terribly prone to getting damaged. Yours should have the superior ECL82 amplifier from 1963.
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Good to see this again as it looks to be in excellent condition and with no serious dents in that metal mesh grille. It was a good idea to specify this type of grille as it had excellent acoustic transperency and certainly looked classy, but was terribly prone to getting damaged. Yours should have the superior ECL82 amplifier from 1963.
I have the original instructions somewhere. As soon as I locate will put photos up.
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Great little record player and if I remember did very well in a WHICH report back in the early 60s. Still have one and the 2nd version?
Nice to finally see a good picture of the "Playboy", looks like a quality unit. I really like the deck, looks like a cream and grey UA15 (a great colour combination ive not seem before). FYI the UA15 was designed by famous industrial designer Raymond Loewy (Coke bottle, Shell logo, Concorde interiors etc see photo) and was quite a design leap from the 50s looking UA14
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Default Re: Stylus for PYE Play Boy record player.

Always likes the look of the UA15/16 compared to earlier versions, the metallic blue took my eye.
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 10:52 am   #20
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Always likes the look of the UA15/16 compared to earlier versions, the metallic blue took my eye.

so is that metallic blue in the photo? very nice

question for Edward (designer of the Playboy): how much flexibility did you have ordering different coloured decks from BSR?
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