Wiring an Austrian(?) telephone for the UK. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

nigelryoung · 29th Nov 2009, 10:17 pm

Hi there
Totally new to old telephones and want help please.
I have an old bakelite retro phone which I think Austrian ?
It has the following data underneath
24744
K with an S on top
1949
53321

If anyone can give me some information and let me know if it is possible to convert it to use on a modern UK phone line I would be really pleased.

thanks
Nyg

Darren-UK · 30th Nov 2009, 12:10 am

Are you sure it's not an H with an S superimposed? If it is, the instrument will be a Siemens and Halske. These were a Berlin based company. From your image it certainly looks like an S&H, probably one of their W48 series which are quite common at the moment. Some had a pushbutton on the front, lower right, where yours appears to have a blanking plug fitted.

It's possible to convert most telephones of that era to work in the UK but, beyond that, someone with more knowledge than me (which is most people) will have to elaborate further.

dagskarlsen · 30th Nov 2009, 9:45 am

Look at:
http://www.andreas-panskus.de/html/body_telefon_anschliessen_tae_walze.html

The ringer will definitly draw a lot of REN and make trouble if not modified.

I believe:

2=UK2 1=UK5 3=UK3 and this no 3 Should have a resistor in seies. at least 2.2 k.

If it is not ringingig, change UK2 and UK5

dsk

dagskarlsen · 30th Nov 2009, 10:48 am

Sorry the last one is wrong, but the edit-possibility timed out.

Look at:
http://www.andreas-panskus.de/html/body_telefon_anschliessen_tae_walze.html

The ringer will definitly draw a lot of REN and make trouble if not modified.

2=UK2 1=UK5

This will make it work. Modifying the ringer circuit will be equal to modifying a German W48.
If you may take a picture of the wiring-diagram witch probably will be glued ti the inside of the telephone we may give more spesific help.

dsk

AnPan99 · 30th Nov 2009, 5:22 pm

The KS-Sign is from Kapsch, Vienna.

http://www.andreas-panskus.de/telefon/Kapsch.jpg

Grettings from Germany
Andreas

29th Nov 2009, 10:17 pm	#1
nigelryoung Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wishaw Posts: 1	Wiring an Austrian(?) telephone for the UK. Hi there Totally new to old telephones and want help please. I have an old bakelite retro phone which I think Austrian ? It has the following data underneath 24744 K with an S on top 1949 53321 If anyone can give me some information and let me know if it is possible to convert it to use on a modern UK phone line I would be really pleased. thanks Nyg Attached Thumbnails

30th Nov 2009, 12:10 am	#2
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	Re: Wiring an Austrian(?) telephone for the UK. Are you sure it's not an H with an S superimposed? If it is, the instrument will be a Siemens and Halske. These were a Berlin based company. From your image it certainly looks like an S&H, probably one of their W48 series which are quite common at the moment. Some had a pushbutton on the front, lower right, where yours appears to have a blanking plug fitted. It's possible to convert most telephones of that era to work in the UK but, beyond that, someone with more knowledge than me (which is most people) will have to elaborate further.

30th Nov 2009, 9:45 am	#3
dagskarlsen Heptode Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hakadal, Norway Posts: 643	Re: Wiring an Austrian(?) telephone for the UK. Look at: http://www.andreas-panskus.de/html/body_telefon_anschliessen_tae_walze.html The ringer will definitly draw a lot of REN and make trouble if not modified. I believe: 2=UK2 1=UK5 3=UK3 and this no 3 Should have a resistor in seies. at least 2.2 k. If it is not ringingig, change UK2 and UK5 dsk Last edited by dagskarlsen; 30th Nov 2009 at 10:01 am. Reason: corrections

30th Nov 2009, 10:48 am	#4
dagskarlsen Heptode Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hakadal, Norway Posts: 643	Re: Wiring an Austrian(?) telephone for the UK. Sorry the last one is wrong, but the edit-possibility timed out. Look at: http://www.andreas-panskus.de/html/body_telefon_anschliessen_tae_walze.html The ringer will definitly draw a lot of REN and make trouble if not modified. 2=UK2 1=UK5 This will make it work. Modifying the ringer circuit will be equal to modifying a German W48. If you may take a picture of the wiring-diagram witch probably will be glued ti the inside of the telephone we may give more spesific help. dsk

30th Nov 2009, 5:22 pm	#5
AnPan99 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wunstorf, Germany Posts: 1	Re: Wiring an Austrian(?) telephone for the UK. The KS-Sign is from Kapsch, Vienna. http://www.andreas-panskus.de/telefon/Kapsch.jpg Grettings from Germany Andreas