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Old 18th Oct 2019, 9:37 am   #1
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Default 1946 TV Combo On Talking Pictures TV

On Channel 81 (Freeview) this morning there was a film (1946) called "Here Comes The Sun" Starring Bud Flanagan & Chesney Allen.

In one scene, there was a TV (or TV combo). Do you know what it was ?

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Old 18th Oct 2019, 9:42 am   #2
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Hi Camtechman,

see the end of this thread:-

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...102254&page=11

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Without looking I would say Marconi?
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Many thanks Andy.
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Hi,
The images of the TV in the screen grabs shown on the link seems to show the set flat against the wall and, possibly, too shallow a cabinet.
I would almost say that it was recessed without any space for the rear of the tube 'hump' or ventilation. Was it mocked up to show a picture via back-projection, without actually working? Possibly to produce an image bright enough to film and without flicker?
I've seen a similar trick used in Patrick McGoohan's 'The Prisoner' where a TV was mocked up to show a colour image on a set that was clearly a monochrome one.
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It does look oddly shallow at the back, though I assumed this was a distortion due to wide angle perspective. The actual set is a surprisingly large unit. Also, the 7-inch version may well be proportionately narrower looking at the rear than the 5-inch version. The view here makes it look deceptively compact.

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It’s a film set so the wall, which was probably a bit of plywood, could just have a hole in it and the set pushed back.
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Actually it doesn't look much different in depth to the 'original'. It is however pushed hard up against the wall at the very least.

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Hi all,
Both the 5" and 7" sets have the same depth of actual wooden cabinet, but whilst the 5" sets has a flat cardboard back, the 7" set has a 2 1/2" inch bulge for the tube neck.
It does look more like the 7" set though, so it is a bit of a mystery...

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Hi,
The images of the TV in the screen grabs shown on the link seems to show the set flat against the wall and, possibly, too shallow a cabinet.
I would almost say that it was recessed without any space for the rear of the tube 'hump' or ventilation. Was it mocked up to show a picture via back-projection, without actually working? Possibly to produce an image bright enough to film and without flicker?
I've seen a similar trick used in Patrick McGoohan's 'The Prisoner' where a TV was mocked up to show a colour image on a set that was clearly a monochrome one.
Cheers, Pete.
I assumed they were using studio monitors in The Prisoner for the TVs, maybe tweaked to prevent any flicker.

For 2001: A Space Odyssey all the monitors were back projected & synced to the cameras, not surprising considering Stanley Kubrick's perfectionism.
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