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Old 20th Oct 2019, 11:47 am   #1
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Default Ferrograph 4S Tape Recorder

Ferrograph 4S Fast forward and rewind working perfectly. Play not working. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 11:55 am   #2
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When you say "Play not working" do you mean the reels don't rotate, or do they rotate but there's no sound?
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 12:03 pm   #3
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Hi Graham,

The wheels are not rotating.

Many thanks
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 2:06 pm   #4
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Does the capstan shaft rotate? Dos the capstan motor shaft rotate?
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 3:07 pm   #5
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Are the speed and equalisation controls in agreement? Some Ferros refuse to play unless they are set to the same speed.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 6:34 pm   #6
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Does the actuate (as one might call it) lever stay locked in place?
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I would suggest that if the motors are energising when in ‘FF’ or ‘REW’ but not in ‘PLAY’ then the first place to look would be the switch wafers in the main multi-function switch.

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Is the capstan rotating when in ‘FF’ or ‘REW’? If not then it may be a problem only with the capstan motor.


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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 11:52 am   #8
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With my Ferrograph, I tried checking continuity (with the power off!) first of all with the switches in different positions, checking that the right circuits were being made and broken. It's always the simple things...
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 4:23 pm   #9
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When I first inspected a Ferro 5 with the view to purchasing it, the owner showed me how he got the capstan motor to turn after engaging play. He lifted up the deck plate, gave the motor fan a spin and it sprang into life. I bought the machine and the first thing I did when I got it home was oil top and bottom motor bearings. From that time on, the motor never missed a beat.
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When I first inspected a Ferro 5 with the view to purchasing it, the owner showed me how he got the capstan motor to turn after engaging play. He lifted up the deck plate, gave the motor fan a spin and it sprang into life. I bought the machine and the first thing I did when I got it home was oil top and bottom motor bearings. From that time on, the motor never missed a beat.
A sluggish capstan motor is sometimes a symptom of a failing phase-shift capacitor.

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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 10:10 am   #11
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When I first inspected a Ferro 5 with the view to purchasing it, the owner showed me how he got the capstan motor to turn after engaging play. He lifted up the deck plate, gave the motor fan a spin and it sprang into life. I bought the machine and the first thing I did when I got it home was oil top and bottom motor bearings. From that time on, the motor never missed a beat.
A sluggish capstan motor is sometimes a symptom of a failing phase-shift capacitor.

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