Connecting Bell set Type 64D - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Murphy Maniac · 9th Jul 2016, 8:19 pm

Could anyone help by providing instructions as to how to connect a Bell Set 64D to my existing telephone circuit. Ideally I would like to plug it in via a double adaptor in the room where my candlestick 'phone lives.
Many thanks in anticipation of your guidance.
Geoff.

julie_m · 9th Jul 2016, 9:55 pm

Pin 3 of BT socket (usually blue; alternative red) → one end of bell coils
Other end of bell coils → Pin 5 of BT socket (usually white; alternative black)

Assuming the candlestick has no internal ringing device, it's OK to use a double adaptor downstream of the ADSL filter (the ringing capacitor in which will only let through enough current to ring one bell).

Murphy Maniac · 9th Jul 2016, 10:14 pm

Thanks for that Julie, I will have a play during next week. Off to a car show, complete with wellies, tomorrow so I won't have much chance until later in the week. If I run into trouble I hope you won't mind if I pick your brains a little further.
Best Wishes and thanks again,
Geoff.

julie_m · 9th Jul 2016, 11:00 pm

No worries.

Also, strictly speaking, it's a Bell 64D. A Bellset includes an induction coil. [doffs geeky glasses]

Pellseinydd · 11th Jul 2016, 12:14 am

But my geeky hat is bigger than yours!

What about a 'Bellset 26' - that doesn't have an induction coil in it. Nor does a 'Bellset No 7, No 20, No 39, No 39A, No 39C, No 41, No 44, No 50A, No 50C or 50D' come to that

Better definition is 'a bellset includes other components in addition to the bell' .

Must rush - got to place bid on a 'Bellset 1A'

Dave Moll · 11th Jul 2016, 7:33 am

What's more, just to add to the confusion, some of the above (e.g. no. 44) don't even include the bell!

BigClick · 11th Jul 2016, 7:35 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pellseinydd

Must rush - got to place bid on a 'Bellset 1A'

If you miss the 1a let me know I might be able to help

Pellseinydd · 11th Jul 2016, 9:13 am

Thanks for the offer - I was only joking.

The only one I've bought lately looked like a 'Bell 1A' but was described as 'Vintage extension bell converted and ready to plug in' but it was in fact a 'Bellset No 8' when I looked a lot closer at the pictures - just what I needed for my Tele 72 !

9th Jul 2016, 8:19 pm	#1
Murphy Maniac Hexode Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Liverpool, Merseyside, UK. Posts: 254	Connecting Bell set Type 64D Could anyone help by providing instructions as to how to connect a Bell Set 64D to my existing telephone circuit. Ideally I would like to plug it in via a double adaptor in the room where my candlestick 'phone lives. Many thanks in anticipation of your guidance. Geoff. __________________ Geoff. (BVWS Member)

9th Jul 2016, 9:55 pm	#2
julie_m Dekatron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Derby, UK. Posts: 7,735	Re: Connecting Bell set Type 64D Pin 3 of BT socket (usually blue; alternative red) → one end of bell coils Other end of bell coils → Pin 5 of BT socket (usually white; alternative black) Assuming the candlestick has no internal ringing device, it's OK to use a double adaptor downstream of the ADSL filter (the ringing capacitor in which will only let through enough current to ring one bell). __________________ If I have seen further than others, it is because I was standing on a pile of failed experiments.

9th Jul 2016, 10:14 pm	#3
Murphy Maniac Hexode Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Liverpool, Merseyside, UK. Posts: 254	Re: Connecting Bell set Type 64D Thanks for that Julie, I will have a play during next week. Off to a car show, complete with wellies, tomorrow so I won't have much chance until later in the week. If I run into trouble I hope you won't mind if I pick your brains a little further. Best Wishes and thanks again, Geoff. __________________ Geoff. (BVWS Member)

9th Jul 2016, 11:00 pm	#4
julie_m Dekatron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Derby, UK. Posts: 7,735	Re: Connecting Bell set Type 64D No worries. Also, strictly speaking, it's a Bell 64D. A Bellset includes an induction coil. [doffs geeky glasses] __________________ If I have seen further than others, it is because I was standing on a pile of failed experiments.

11th Jul 2016, 12:14 am	#5
Pellseinydd Heptode Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Flintshire, UK. Posts: 707	Re: Connecting Bell set Type 64D But my geeky hat is bigger than yours! What about a 'Bellset 26' - that doesn't have an induction coil in it. Nor does a 'Bellset No 7, No 20, No 39, No 39A, No 39C, No 41, No 44, No 50A, No 50C or 50D' come to that Better definition is 'a bellset includes other components in addition to the bell' . Must rush - got to place bid on a 'Bellset 1A'

11th Jul 2016, 7:33 am	#6
Dave Moll Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Cumbria (CA13), UK Posts: 6,127	Re: Connecting Bell set Type 64D What's more, just to add to the confusion, some of the above (e.g. no. 44) don't even include the bell! __________________ Mending is better than Ending (cf Brave New World by Aldous Huxley)

11th Jul 2016, 9:13 am	#8
Pellseinydd Heptode Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Flintshire, UK. Posts: 707	Re: Connecting Bell set Type 64D Thanks for the offer - I was only joking. The only one I've bought lately looked like a 'Bell 1A' but was described as 'Vintage extension bell converted and ready to plug in' but it was in fact a 'Bellset No 8' when I looked a lot closer at the pictures - just what I needed for my Tele 72 !