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10th Aug 2020, 7:13 pm | #1 |
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Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
Hi all. I have purchased a new reproduction fox 2166 stereo cartridge, same as a ronette dc284 except that's mono. I have found faint numbers on the back 1 to 4 but these dont match any diagrams. So does anyone know which 2 are left and right positive please. im tying the ground together. thanks all.
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10th Aug 2020, 8:13 pm | #2 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
More likely to be a clone of the Ronette 105 Stereo cartridge. If you enlarge a photo of that model, you may be able to see the channel markings.
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11th Aug 2020, 8:51 am | #3 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
I can tell you the connections on the Ronette 105. With the cartridge in the LP position, and looking from the back of the cartridge, top right pin is LH positive, bottom left is RH positive. Bottom right is LH ground, and top left is RH ground. Hope this helps.
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11th Aug 2020, 2:34 pm | #4 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
thankyou for that,problem is its new and i dont know position the LP is.This has 2 styli for 45 rpm,its for a jukebox.
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11th Aug 2020, 3:53 pm | #5 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
If it is a clone of the Ronette 105, one stylus with be for 78s and one for 45/33rpm.
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11th Aug 2020, 6:31 pm | #6 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
It isn't a clone of a Ronette 105 but of a Ronette TO222 and it is supplied with two styli for microgroove records, unfortunately made of sapphire rather than diamond so they won't last long. .
It should be easy to find out which the two pairs are with a multimeter. There will be low resistance between the positive and negative of each channel but I don't know how you can tell which is positive and which is negative. You could find out which channel is which if you have a test disc that announces the sides as a lot of them do. Perhaps somebody who knows these cartridges better than I do can tell us what the pin-out is from the picture. Last edited by barretter; 11th Aug 2020 at 6:51 pm. Reason: Misinformation |
11th Aug 2020, 6:51 pm | #7 |
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11th Aug 2020, 7:25 pm | #8 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
It seems odd that the two grounds should be diagonally opposite to each other. I've never seen a magnetic cartridge with that configuration but I have no experience with crystal/ceramic cartridges.
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12th Aug 2020, 11:07 am | #9 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
A ceramic cartridge will be open circuit for each channel not low resistance. A magnetic type will have the low resistance.
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12th Aug 2020, 1:20 pm | #10 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
After all these years, I'ver never heard of, and cannot trace, a FOX 2166 stereo cartridge. Was this a Ronette special made for the Juke Box trade and not available domestically?
I notice the OP says it's a "new reproduction". Was this sourced here in the UK?
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12th Aug 2020, 3:00 pm | #11 |
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12th Aug 2020, 5:09 pm | #12 | |
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12th Aug 2020, 7:49 pm | #13 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
Well here it is installed and ready to go back in.i wonder what it will sound like.many thanks for all your replies.
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13th Aug 2020, 10:05 am | #14 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
It looks as if you're going to have to change those connectors that are attached to the wires. They should be round ones, these look to be for flat cartridge pins.
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13th Aug 2020, 5:26 pm | #15 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
Yea the round ones are on the cartridge,the flat type go on the carriage connector of jukebox.
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13th Aug 2020, 6:57 pm | #16 |
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13th Aug 2020, 10:00 pm | #17 |
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My other pic not load.but yes it sounds great,and all thanks to help on here.
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16th Aug 2020, 10:59 am | #18 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
This is the pic if it comes out this time.discomatic tone arm.
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16th Aug 2020, 12:28 pm | #19 | |
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20th Aug 2020, 11:26 am | #20 |
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Re: Fox 2166 cartridge wiring
Fox were /are? made here in Spain I believe.
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