Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

TonyJaguar · 28th May 2020, 8:01 am

Hi All, my first post on the forum so please be kind! I'm not a radio expert but I am a classic car-crazy person. Specifically my Jaguar Mark 2 saloon dating from 1966. I was lucky enough a few years back to find a restored model of the car's original radio on eBay - a Pye P2000T - which was duly installed. Unfortunately both of the dial lamps have since failed and I am trying, unsuccessfully so far, to source replacements. I have the original user manual which says the lamps are both "14v, 0.75w bulbs", [Pye] "part no 071969". I live in Malaysia at the moment while the car is in the UK so I've no way of removing the bulbs to check what type they are. However, from extensive research on the internet this 14v, 0.75w combination (drawing just over 0.05 amps each if my maths is correct) are simply unheard of! Neither can I find any references to the original Pye part number to help me. I've purchased the original service data from this site but that gives no more information than I have in the operating instructions. Can anyone out there help me to identify the bulbs required and where I might be able to source them please? I'm trying to attach a scan of the front page of the operating instructions in case that is of any help.....

Thank you in advance for any help!

Paul Stenning · 28th May 2020, 9:57 am

The attached diagram and notes from the manufacturers service manual gives an indication of the size and position of the lamps, which may help with working out what size and fitting they may be. The parts list does not give any further information.

Herald1360 · 28th May 2020, 10:00 am

From the description of the replacement technique in the service data I would expect that the bulbs are LES (Lilliput Edison Screw) types. The 14V 0.75W rating would certainly be consistent with this type as would the use of a piece of 4mm PVC tube as a removal aid.

They might be green coloured (some car panel lamps were) but that can be sorted if appearances are paramount!

Herald1360 · 28th May 2020, 10:12 am

Further to my last reply, these:

https://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/p/fi...lamps/0104597/

look promising!

ajgriff · 28th May 2020, 10:16 am

This eBay seller has 14V 0.06A MES bulbs which is close enough and should work fine:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MES-Minia...3bFZIcUptHwD8g

Obviously don't buy anything until you can confirm the fitting style. Failing that there are plenty of 12V bulbs generally available with a suitable power rating which should also be ok. I once owned one of these radios. Bought it from a scrapyard and fitted it to my first car (old Mini). How times change.

Alan

Paul Stenning · 28th May 2020, 10:23 am

From the 4mm sleeving point I think LES is more likely than MES too. Those from RS that Chris found look promising.

ajgriff · 28th May 2020, 10:27 am

Agreed - LES seems more likely but best to check first.

Alan

Herald1360 · 28th May 2020, 10:27 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajgriff

This eBay seller has 14V 0.06A MES bulbs which is close enough and should work fine:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MES-Minia...3bFZIcUptHwD8g

.......

Alan

The seller also stocks:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LES-E5-Li...edirect=mobile

TonyJaguar · 28th May 2020, 10:33 am

Wow - thanks so much all! That's incredibly helpful. I now know where to come if I have any issues with classic car radios! Brilliant! thank you!

28th May 2020, 8:01 am	#1
TonyJaguar Diode Join Date: May 2020 Location: Desa Park City, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 2	Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps Hi All, my first post on the forum so please be kind! I'm not a radio expert but I am a classic car-crazy person. Specifically my Jaguar Mark 2 saloon dating from 1966. I was lucky enough a few years back to find a restored model of the car's original radio on eBay - a Pye P2000T - which was duly installed. Unfortunately both of the dial lamps have since failed and I am trying, unsuccessfully so far, to source replacements. I have the original user manual which says the lamps are both "14v, 0.75w bulbs", [Pye] "part no 071969". I live in Malaysia at the moment while the car is in the UK so I've no way of removing the bulbs to check what type they are. However, from extensive research on the internet this 14v, 0.75w combination (drawing just over 0.05 amps each if my maths is correct) are simply unheard of! Neither can I find any references to the original Pye part number to help me. I've purchased the original service data from this site but that gives no more information than I have in the operating instructions. Can anyone out there help me to identify the bulbs required and where I might be able to source them please? I'm trying to attach a scan of the front page of the operating instructions in case that is of any help..... Thank you in advance for any help! Attached Thumbnails

28th May 2020, 9:57 am	#2
Paul Stenning Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cardiff Posts: 9,071	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps The attached diagram and notes from the manufacturers service manual gives an indication of the size and position of the lamps, which may help with working out what size and fitting they may be. The parts list does not give any further information. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Paul Stenning Forum Admin/Owner and BVWS Webmaster

28th May 2020, 10:00 am	#3
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,535	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps From the description of the replacement technique in the service data I would expect that the bulbs are LES (Lilliput Edison Screw) types. The 14V 0.75W rating would certainly be consistent with this type as would the use of a piece of 4mm PVC tube as a removal aid. They might be green coloured (some car panel lamps were) but that can be sorted if appearances are paramount! __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

28th May 2020, 10:12 am	#4
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,535	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps Further to my last reply, these: https://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/p/fi...lamps/0104597/ look promising! __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

28th May 2020, 10:16 am	#5
ajgriff Nonode Join Date: May 2004 Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 2,587	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps This eBay seller has 14V 0.06A MES bulbs which is close enough and should work fine: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MES-Minia...3bFZIcUptHwD8g Obviously don't buy anything until you can confirm the fitting style. Failing that there are plenty of 12V bulbs generally available with a suitable power rating which should also be ok. I once owned one of these radios. Bought it from a scrapyard and fitted it to my first car (old Mini). How times change. Alan

28th May 2020, 10:23 am	#6
Paul Stenning Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cardiff Posts: 9,071	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps From the 4mm sleeving point I think LES is more likely than MES too. Those from RS that Chris found look promising. __________________ Paul Stenning Forum Admin/Owner and BVWS Webmaster

28th May 2020, 10:27 am	#7
ajgriff Nonode Join Date: May 2004 Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 2,587	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps Agreed - LES seems more likely but best to check first. Alan

28th May 2020, 10:33 am	#9
TonyJaguar Diode Join Date: May 2020 Location: Desa Park City, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 2	Re: Pye P2000T Car Radio: Dial Lamps Wow - thanks so much all! That's incredibly helpful. I now know where to come if I have any issues with classic car radios! Brilliant! thank you!