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Old 27th Jun 2016, 3:56 pm   #141
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Certainly looks very late BSRish - 1973? There should be a red BSR sticker on the underside of the motor plate. Very budget built. Edward
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 10:18 pm   #142
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Default BSR UA 14 number of variations

Have two DEFIANT (Co-op) record players with UA14 decks but one appears just slightly different in that the arm on one has no clip but clips into the arm holder, the other has a purpose metal clip to hold. Also I noticed another UA14 on another player that has Monarch. So are there 3 variations or just 2?
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 11:47 pm   #143
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Don't forget the brown version too ;-)
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Old 8th Mar 2018, 2:21 pm   #144
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I don't ever recall seeing these with an added "Monarch" badge. Obviously there is the earlier and, apparently, mechanically identical, UA12.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 8:08 pm   #145
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Hi there,
Thought I may be able to help contribute. I have an early Pye Black Box with this BSR Autochanger fitted but I cannot seem to find any pictures of it online. Perhaps some of you good people can help identify it. (UA4?)
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 10:31 pm   #146
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That's a really early Black Box from 1954. It's a BSR UA5 autochanger in there. I only ever saw them made at Lowestoft in 1955 with the follow-on, BSR UA6. The original BSR TC4 cartridge has been replaced by what looks like a later Ronette type.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 10:47 am   #147
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Posts #131 and #133 suggest there was no UA5.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 11:19 am   #148
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The BSR deck in Post 145.....It's a Monarch, according to its ID plate...…

Looks like the early version of the said.

The fanfare:

https://www.americanradiohistory.com...=%22monarch%22

The next version:

https://www.americanradiohistory.com...=%22monarch%22

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Old 27th Aug 2018, 11:31 am   #149
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Very rare and interesting content. Indeed, I never knew the UA5 was quite as early as January 1953, nor the UA6 from as early as February 1954.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 1:14 am   #150
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The UA5 was the first BSR autochanger, designed by Lawrence Guest. Apparently most were badged Decca as it was they who proposed manufacture of changers to BSR.

Paraphrased from BSR Just for the record book
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 6:46 am   #151
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See also post 4
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Old 14th Dec 2018, 7:32 pm   #152
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I played a big part in making these decks and it brings back memories.The second one ln the pictures had only a few parts, I think six if I am right.Those were given away in the USA with Cornflakes. We made all the parts that go in to the changers along with the main plates and turntables. I still come across some bits I have in my garage when I am searching for something else.
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 6:14 pm   #153
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Hope these pictures will add to your collection.
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 9:03 pm   #154
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I'm dealing with 1963 Fidelity record player with a deck identical to the very first photo on the first post on this very informative thread (see photo attached). I can see that you press and rotate the plastic insert at the centre of the turntable clockwise, but how on earth do you then remove the turntable from the deck?? This one appears to be stuck!!

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Old 12th Jan 2020, 9:22 pm   #155
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After you've removed the plastic insert, you remove the circlip holding the turntable onto the bearing. If it is stuck, use heat from a hairdryer to warm up the bearing then lift the turntable off.
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 11:41 pm   #156
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Ah thanks - I'll give that a go!

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Old 26th Feb 2020, 9:43 am   #157
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Can you confirm the very first picture in post #1 is a UA14 please?
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 10:05 am   #158
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Yes it is with the original TC8 cartridge in it.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 12:40 pm   #159
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Thank you Edward.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 8:27 pm   #160
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Another pic of a UA4 from Geoff (Murphy Maniac).

Much better than the one I used in post 4, way back in 2009.
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