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Old 5th Dec 2014, 11:34 am   #1
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Default OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...io_Licence.pdf

Seems the need for a 5MHz NoV is going away for 'full' licence-holders. Not that getting one was an onerious task anyway...
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Sounds very positive anyway.Think this is what the RSGB was after.
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I hope it doesn't cause the 5MHz allocations to become overwhelmed; they're a nice refuge from the invariable weekend bellow of "CQ CONTEST!"
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Indeed.
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Default Re: OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

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Seems the need for a 5MHz NoV is going away for 'full' licence-holders.
Also for 470kHz as well, so when I finally find that Marconi "Oceanspan" I'll be able to use it on the air!

5 MHz is a great band but, as you say, the ease of getting an NOV granted means that anyone who wanted to get on the band could do so by return of e-mail. So, this change to not needing an NOV is unlikely to open the floodgates. Let's hope for a 200kHz allocation next year at WRC2015!

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I hope it doesn't cause the 5MHz allocations to become overwhelmed
Given that the usual off-the-shelf "consumer / appliance" amateur radio transceivers do not cover the band, it takes some dedication to get on 5MHz. This restricts the pool of potential operators, both in quantity and by type.
How long that will remain the case is another matter. Enjoy it whilst you can!

I wish official organisations were consistent in their use of abbreviations. I just read that document and spent about ten minutes thoroughly confused, until I realised that "RSL" was being used to mean "Regional Secondary Locator" instead of Ofcom's usual term "Restricted Service Licence".
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Given that the usual off-the-shelf "consumer / appliance" amateur radio transceivers do not cover the band, it takes some dedication to get on 5MHz. This restricts the pool of potential operators, both in quantity and by type.
How long that will remain the case is another matter. Enjoy it whilst you can!.
I am doing!

The lack of 'off-the-shelf' transceivers and commercially-manufactured antennas does present a useful degree of discouragement to the less-than-wholly-motivated and technically-challenged types.

Long may it continue.

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Other than Clansmans, what are people using on 5MHz?

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Default Re: OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

As well as my PRC320 I have a Yaesu FT897D that works on 5MHz, and a Redifon 6288R ATU that will match anything to anything.
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Icom 746 transceiver, broadbanded by myself when my eyesight was better! On 5317 AM, occasionally a Collins TCS-9 TX and TCS-12 RX. Could use my WS 62 but conditions need to be good for the couple of watts it produces.
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I use a throttled-back modified LG300 driven by a DDSS plus EF91-5763 exciter modulated by a pair of 807s in AB2 - all very 1950s. - see previous VMARS Signal edition for details - Peter
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Default Re: OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

I don't quite know why, but I had the impression that the band was not "AM friendly" - obviously not so!

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Default Re: OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

There's a bandlet around 5317 kHz that has become the default AM centre of activity but there's no official AM portion of the band. When the present bandlets were announced there were some objections to AM operation voiced on the Yahoo "ukfivemegs" forum but things seemed to have settled down. Bandwidth on all modes is limited to 6kHz so some AMers monitor themselves on the Hack Green SDR, to ensure their b/w is in limits.

Recently however, 5317 has been unusable due to a powerful and quite broad data signal, so amateur AM activity has been low.
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Default Re: OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

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Other than Clansmans, what are people using on 5MHz?
My Icom 7100 with a simple mod. will work on 5Hmz

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The 5MHz bandlets are not allowed for 'mobile' operation - nevertheless I have cunning plans involving a Canadian 'Spilsbury STA-270' antenna http://home.cogeco.ca/~rodemi/images...%20Antenna.jpg and a parked Land-Rover.
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Old 7th Dec 2014, 12:17 pm   #16
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Default Re: OFCOM removes need for 5MHz NoVs.

Yes that's very good news. The paraset and other spy radios will work really well on 5 megs. I've got an ICOM IC-718 and by taking out D53 - D54 - D55 it will work on 5 megs. That comes with no guarantees though HI.

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Old 7th Dec 2014, 4:45 pm   #17
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I have converted my !C746 with a simple mod to cover the band.I hope to operate a.m. with one or two of my old pieces of military gear in the future,One,of course,needs to ensure they are within band limits with minimal drift.

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