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Nonode
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Some info on meter markings (further to the Vintage meter thread in another section).
These are only the most common symbols you're likely to come across, there are plenty more, some of them very obscure (if anybody wants the really obscure ones, I'll see if I can find the book the chart's hiding in). The pic is in German, translated as follows: Gleichstrom - Direct current Gleichstrom und Wechselstrom - Direct current and alternating current Wechselstrom - Alternating current Senkrechte Lage des Instruments - Vertical position of the instrument Horizontale Lage des Instruments - Horizontal position of the instrument Schrage (60Grad) Lage - Slope (60 degrees) location - the degrees can vary between different meters Prufspannung 2000 V - Test voltage 2000 V - if the symbol has no number in it, test voltage is 500V Prozentgenauigkeit bei Vollausschlag - Percentage accuracy at full scale Drehspulmesswerk - Moving coil measuring mechanism Dreheisenmesswerk - Moving iron measuring mechanism |
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Octode
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Thanks for these Terry, I've always wondered what they meant.
So, my AVO 8 MK IV pictured: Direct and alternating current Test voltage 7000 volts Moving coil Vertical use The diode symbol underneath the moving coil symbol, is that protection against reverse polarity? PS mine has the optional broken glass. ![]() Are the final two for 1 amp/2amp limits?
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Nonode
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I think Merlin's right, I'll have to see if I can find the book with the rest of the symbols - been a while since I saw it hiding in the workshop.
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Note that the angle symbol says grads not degrees. There is a grad which I think is 1/100th of a right angle, though I've never come across it used before (My HP calculators can be switched to use degrees, radians or grads)
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Nonode
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Nonode
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That's Google translate for you
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Heptode
Join Date: Dec 2019
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Hello,
Grads are still in use in geodesy in many countries. When it comes to mining geodesy, students are taught at any German university in the very first moment: "Always remember: A circle has got 400 Grads and nothing else". Well, if it comes to EE, any circle has got 2*PI and nothing else ... So, no problem. Just got to know in which field you are roaming. Just a convention. Regards, Joe |
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Nonode
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I'm still trying to find my book with the extra symbols in, but it is doing a very good job of hiding
![]() In the mean time, this and the following post on EEVblog will give you more symbols (again you will need to translate them) https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/exploring-the-symbols...t9nv0rv06h9p0g9dr9nodphab0#msg56278 |
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Octode
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Thanks for the link Terry.
"As an addition to the rectifier (mebwerk)" is the diode symbol, but my keyboard doesn't have the German italicized B. ![]() Alt + 0223 is the android shortcut, unavailable to me.
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Dekatron
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The italicised B or sz symbol can be replaced by a double s egg: Messwerk, Strasse.
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This model is completely confusing with 1600 degrees instead of 90 degrees. Jard N. |
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I think grads may have originated from (French) cartography as a way of expressing longitude and latitude coordinates in decimal form: equator to pole is 100 grads. The French equivalent of large scale Ordnance Survey maps have two scales of longitude and latitude. One is in degrees referred to the international (Greenwich) meridian, the other is in grads (grades in french), referred to the meridian of Paris. The vertical lines of latitude marked on my 1:25000 map represent 0.1 grad(e) increments.
So it would seem that Dan Brown didn't do his homework when, in "The Davinci Code" he described the meridian line in that Paris church as being no longer used: it is still used as a reference on official French maps. Last edited by emeritus; 31st Aug 2021 at 1:09 pm. Reason: typos, expanded french map observations |
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