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Old 8th Mar 2017, 11:49 am   #21
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Hang on! BSR made the tape deck but the plastic deck mask was often contract-made (many by Cosmocord) to the tape recorder makers' needs so it is not always easy to tell which deck lies underneath - it could even be a German Saja which had similar controls!

The four BSR decks were the TD.1 (Monardek)/TD.2 almost identical from the outside; the difference is inside: belt vs idler drive. The vast majority are TD2. There were some non-standard (2-speed) decks and modifications such as the Eltra, as Ted says.

The TD.10 has the sliding speed selector next to the head block and is a quite distinctive design.

The TD.20 is piano key controlled - their last deck... it was solid but Fidelity let it down!

The TD.4 battery deck is very similar to the TD2 but much squatter; they are very rare!

BSR decks are pretty well indestrucible. When BSR ceased manufacture, Goodsell sought to buy the jigs and tools to keep the TD2 in production for schools use, but BSR declined as they were too worn... besides, the days of open reel were almost over.
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 12:34 pm   #22
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BSR made the tape deck but the plastic deck mask was often contract-made (many by Cosmocord) to the tape recorder makers' needs...
That's what I was alluding to in post 14. But was I right in assuming that some of the decks were supplied complete with deck mask?
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 2:41 pm   #23
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But was I right in assuming that some of the decks were supplied complete with deck mask?
I'm fairly sure I've seen adverts in old magazines for the bare deck including the top panel. We had an old Peto Scott recorder in our family with what looked like the standard panel on the TD2 deck.
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...and my mid-1960s Portadyne was the same, the machine's cabinet being a very basic Rexine-covered hardboard affair with an expanded aluminium LS grille and a control panel formed from a U-profile sheet of thin aluminium. In other words, it looked like they lacked the facilities or funds to have custom-made plastic mouldings.
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I would guess that this one is a TD2.
The one thing that stands out clearly is that the badges look like they have been hand applied. It looks like the silver badge is slightly to the right of center and the brown badge is slightly left hand down.
Otherwise the plastic parts look like they were as supplied with the deck.
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 3:51 pm   #26
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Default Re: BSR Tape Deck types.

brenellic2000 seems to have summed up things nicely in post #21.

Doe anyone have a picture of a TD4?
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There was one in Tape Recorder ca 1962, methinks...
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 8:10 pm   #28
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Tape Recording UK 1962 July page 17.

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/...cording-UK.htm
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Picture of TD4 deck taken from the above publication.
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Old 9th Mar 2017, 11:17 am   #30
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Yes, Nick, BSR would have supplied a basic plastic deck mask with the basic tape transport (as did Brenell - a leather cloth covered alloy plate; likewise Ferrorgraph, Collaro etc...) but companies such as Elizabethan, Sound(TRE) Thorn and others designed their own deck mask to disguise what lurked underneath.

The TD1 was made only for a matter of months; these generally (but not always) carry a 'Monardeck' legend (named after BSR's factory). Unfortunately the press reports (not the most reliable of 'facts') often use 'TD.1' and 'TD.2' for the self-same model but it is likely the TD.2 seamlessly replaced the TD.1 in production runs without any change in model number.
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Here are the pictures of the TD10 deck:-
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