Bush Record player lid stains - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

barry1506 · 26th Feb 2016, 4:50 pm

I'm finishing off work on Bush record player and just need to finish off the cabinet as you can see in the pictures its got stains on the lid.
I have cleaned the lid with all sorts of stuff and its very clean but I cant remove the stains is this something I could dye if so what with?
Barry.

sp10mk11 · 26th Feb 2016, 4:57 pm

you could try a colour renovating shoe polish, when I used to do these I tried that and some times it worked
Gary

Edward Huggins · 26th Feb 2016, 5:27 pm

You could try an all over deeper clean rather than trying to stain/color it. A medium toothbrush with a 60% Cif creme cleaner/40% water mix is effective. It's fairly aggressive so try a patch first. Edward

barry1506 · 26th Feb 2016, 6:42 pm

I have given it a deep clean and it only got the old dirt out buy the stains remain.
Barry

kevin m · 26th Feb 2016, 7:33 pm

That looks to me like mildew marks. For some reason the bush SRP31's seem to do that with damp. the mildew seems to bleach the pigment out of the rexine. I don't know if it was the colouring process used on the rexine they used or not but I've had several of these players all with the same marks. Usually on the bottom of them from where they've been stored in damp conditions though. Nothing I've ever tried has got rid of them. I would try some sort of renovating. but if you do find a way to remove them or cover them up then please let me know.

Kev

barry1506 · 26th Feb 2016, 7:38 pm

Yes it looks very much like its had bleach splashed on it just wondering if I could dye it with something.
Barry

leslie5555 · 26th Feb 2016, 7:43 pm

I've never used dye on these but have resprayed quite a few with spray cans. If you can find one very close to the original colour with a satin finish, it should look good.

barry1506 · 26th Feb 2016, 9:23 pm

Hi any particular kind of spray paint something like acrylic maybe.

leslie5555 · 27th Feb 2016, 7:46 pm

Hi. I use the B&Q range of spray cans. They are simply called colours, come in gloss satin and matt, and are described as craft paints suitable for all kinds of materials.

Scimitar · 27th Feb 2016, 9:27 pm

Have a look at Vinylkote.

dseymo1 · 28th Feb 2016, 11:08 am

Brushing acrylic, applied with a bit of PU foam, works very well on leather, and, I would imagine, be just as good on vinyl. As usual, use several thin coats; drying beteen coats is only anout 10 minutes in warm conditions.

unitaudio · 28th Feb 2016, 3:33 pm

As Scimitar says, check out Vinylkote. It's made by a company called "Formula 40" and I think it's only available online now. Good stuff, leaves the grain of the material distinct and doesn't sit as a heavy coat on the surface, it's not a paint, it alters the pigmentation of the material treated, clever stuff. It's available in dozens of colours and I think they even do a colour match service, I know they used to. Used it on the interior of my Zephyr a few years ago and was very impressed with the results.

No connection with Formula 40, just highly impressed by their product.

Regards,
Paul

Scimitar · 28th Feb 2016, 3:41 pm

They are very helpful and can be called on the phone. Located in Aston Birmingham. They will also match to a sample you provide. Available by the litre or in aerosols.

Hartley118 · 28th Feb 2016, 5:52 pm

Have you tried Swarfega?

I've found it to have a pretty aggressive cleaning effect on Rexine, to the extent of tending to emulsify the top layer of pigment on some examples, but that may be what this problem needs.

As in Edward's warning above, best to try it on an umimportant patch first.

Martin

26th Feb 2016, 4:50 pm	#1
barry1506 Tetrode Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 63	Bush Record player lid stains I'm finishing off work on Bush record player and just need to finish off the cabinet as you can see in the pictures its got stains on the lid. I have cleaned the lid with all sorts of stuff and its very clean but I cant remove the stains is this something I could dye if so what with? Barry. Attached Thumbnails

26th Feb 2016, 4:57 pm	#2
sp10mk11 Octode Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 1,275	Re: Bush Record player lid stains you could try a colour renovating shoe polish, when I used to do these I tried that and some times it worked Gary

26th Feb 2016, 5:27 pm	#3
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,336	Re: Bush Record player lid stains You could try an all over deeper clean rather than trying to stain/color it. A medium toothbrush with a 60% Cif creme cleaner/40% water mix is effective. It's fairly aggressive so try a patch first. Edward

26th Feb 2016, 6:42 pm	#4
barry1506 Tetrode Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 63	Re: Bush Record player lid stains I have given it a deep clean and it only got the old dirt out buy the stains remain. Barry

26th Feb 2016, 7:33 pm	#5
kevin m Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Derbyshire, UK. Posts: 210	Re: Bush Record player lid stains That looks to me like mildew marks. For some reason the bush SRP31's seem to do that with damp. the mildew seems to bleach the pigment out of the rexine. I don't know if it was the colouring process used on the rexine they used or not but I've had several of these players all with the same marks. Usually on the bottom of them from where they've been stored in damp conditions though. Nothing I've ever tried has got rid of them. I would try some sort of renovating. but if you do find a way to remove them or cover them up then please let me know. Kev

26th Feb 2016, 7:38 pm	#6
barry1506 Tetrode Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 63	Re: Bush Record player lid stains Yes it looks very much like its had bleach splashed on it just wondering if I could dye it with something. Barry

26th Feb 2016, 7:43 pm	#7
leslie5555 Heptode Join Date: May 2015 Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 692	Re: Bush Record player lid stains I've never used dye on these but have resprayed quite a few with spray cans. If you can find one very close to the original colour with a satin finish, it should look good.

26th Feb 2016, 9:23 pm	#8
barry1506 Tetrode Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 63	Re: Bush Record player lid stains Hi any particular kind of spray paint something like acrylic maybe.

27th Feb 2016, 7:46 pm	#9
leslie5555 Heptode Join Date: May 2015 Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK. Posts: 692	Re: Bush Record player lid stains Hi. I use the B&Q range of spray cans. They are simply called colours, come in gloss satin and matt, and are described as craft paints suitable for all kinds of materials.

27th Feb 2016, 9:27 pm	#10
Scimitar Heptode Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Gloucestershire, UK. Posts: 720	Re: Bush Record player lid stains Have a look at Vinylkote.

28th Feb 2016, 11:08 am	#11
dseymo1 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shropshire, UK. Posts: 3,051	Re: Bush Record player lid stains Brushing acrylic, applied with a bit of PU foam, works very well on leather, and, I would imagine, be just as good on vinyl. As usual, use several thin coats; drying beteen coats is only anout 10 minutes in warm conditions.

28th Feb 2016, 3:33 pm	#12
unitaudio Heptode Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 862	Re: Bush Record player lid stains As Scimitar says, check out Vinylkote. It's made by a company called "Formula 40" and I think it's only available online now. Good stuff, leaves the grain of the material distinct and doesn't sit as a heavy coat on the surface, it's not a paint, it alters the pigmentation of the material treated, clever stuff. It's available in dozens of colours and I think they even do a colour match service, I know they used to. Used it on the interior of my Zephyr a few years ago and was very impressed with the results. No connection with Formula 40, just highly impressed by their product. Regards, Paul __________________ ...No, it's not supposed to pick up the World Service, it's not a radio!

28th Feb 2016, 3:41 pm	#13
Scimitar Heptode Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Gloucestershire, UK. Posts: 720	Re: Bush Record player lid stains They are very helpful and can be called on the phone. Located in Aston Birmingham. They will also match to a sample you provide. Available by the litre or in aerosols.

28th Feb 2016, 5:52 pm	#14
Hartley118 Nonode Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Cambridge, Cambs. UK. Posts: 2,198	Re: Bush Record player lid stains Have you tried Swarfega? I've found it to have a pretty aggressive cleaning effect on Rexine, to the extent of tending to emulsify the top layer of pigment on some examples, but that may be what this problem needs. As in Edward's warning above, best to try it on an umimportant patch first. Martin __________________ BVWS Member