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Old 8th Mar 2021, 10:08 am   #161
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Uncle Sydney demonstrates that Mickey is perfectly clear on 180 lines.

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Old 8th Mar 2021, 11:30 am   #162
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That certainly is something different! What amazing quality. What is the modulated light source?
Three parallel rows (RGB) of brilliant LEDs totalling 198 in all in a vertical assembly. See 1st pic. The required video bandwidth is 240 KHz. The late Karen Orton made a Timing Corrector, which in addition to other tasks converges the reflections of the red, green and blue LED rows.

The assembly is so bright it's probably dangerous to look at directly, though is fine when spread out into a reflected raster by the mirror screw.

Here's another scene from Andy's book: 2nd pic. What's the date? About 1958?

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Old 8th Mar 2021, 5:13 pm   #163
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A couple of Retrovisors in the home. The cream one was the last one made.

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Old 8th Mar 2021, 6:17 pm   #164
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Panrock wrote: "Here's another scene from Andy's book: 2nd pic. What's the date? About 1958?"
Hi Steve,
The TV looks like a Ferguson "Golden Glide" model from 1960.
Not sure about the gram, Pye G63 perhaps?

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Old 8th Mar 2021, 6:36 pm   #165
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Television in the Student Digs

South-East London in 1991. A photocopy of a photo taken by my flat mate. Enjoying some early evening entertainment on the Invicta 697-chassied set.

Attractive floral blanket box as a TV stand. Prized Sharp VHS machine below and a newly acquired Sony C7 Betamax from the junk shop across the road. Amstrad Stereo speakers around the fire place.

A friend donated the Invicta set - he'd been using it in his damp bedsit, watching TV with the fizz and glow of corona around the anode cap. By the time we got it the mains filter cap had gone pop and necessitated some track repair on the EHT board.

Sold the set for a couple of pounds at a boot sale on leaving college. Back to a Bush Ranger black and white portable in my digs for my first job.

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Old 8th Mar 2021, 6:50 pm   #166
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Some good responses. Wish I had a picture of the K-B Royal Star I operated at boarding school (against the school rules) in the '60s!

Here's another from Andy's book, apparently taken from a postcard. The set?

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Old 8th Mar 2021, 7:28 pm   #167
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I don't know about the TV, but the electric fire is a Belling!
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Old 8th Mar 2021, 7:37 pm   #168
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Is that TV placed on top of an electric fire then?

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Not a period photo but period props.

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Old 29th Mar 2021, 9:32 pm   #170
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These are not period photos either, but I think/hope it makes sense to post them here. The first one is from a really nice website devoted to film props, 'Our Life with Props', which features a section on the 1984 production of Nineteen Eighty-Four (directed by Michael Radford, with John Hurt, Susana Hamilton, Cyril Cusack, Richard Burton and many other great actors). Among other aspects, the art directors and prop makers wanted to create future technology as it would have been envisaged back in the 1940s (this is sometimes called retrofuturism, I think). The first photo depicts their interpretation of the infamous Speakwrite machine (a sort of bidirectional TV + (des)information system). They had to build many of these and so they used vacuum formed plastic painted and finished to look like bakelite (the descriptions and stories on the website are very interesting and I definitely recommend it to anyone who's into film and film props). This is in fact one of my favourite films, and one that has marked me deeply from the moment I first watched it back in the mid-1980s. When I recently came across the film prop website, I realised that perhaps this had something to do with my taste for Bush TV22s and DAC90As (I have two of each, which are actually my only vintage sets). Can you spot the similarities?
On another note, and inspired by this thread, I think it would be great to have a thread on "Television in the factory". I managed to find online a couple of reasonably good photos of the Bush factory, which have a lot of interesting details, including the way the chassis actually looked like when they were new.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 10:00 am   #171
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If you liked the Speakwrite in the film version of "1984" Helder you will probably enjoy the technology in the film "Brazil" too.

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Old 30th Mar 2021, 6:48 pm   #172
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If you liked the Speakwrite in the film version of "1984" Helder you will probably enjoy the technology in the film "Brazil" too.

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Thanks Peter. I don't think I ever managed to watch Brazil in full, but will give it a go soon, possibly on the TV22. From what I recall, and apart from the opening scene with the soon-to-be-exploded TV22-ish sets, the aesthetics was closer to cyberpunk (e.g., Blade Runner) than to the 1940's retrofuturism in "1984". Regardless, I enjoy both.
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 5:48 pm   #173
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This might not be the right place and I can't do a link but Steve did say that his thread was originally inspired by a domestic photo.

Episode 2 of "DNA Family Secrets" [Stacey Dooley] BBC2 shows Margaret standing next to the family TV Console. It has four prominent control knobs. She is aged 6 and was born in 1953 so it's 1959! Do we know the make and model? On I-Player, it's at 3 minutes in!

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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 6:21 pm   #174
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This might not be the right place and I can't do a link but Steve did say that his thread was originally inspired by a domestic photo.

Episode 2 of "DNA Family Secrets" [Stacey Dooley] BBC2 shows Margaret standing next to the family TV Console. It has four prominent control knobs. She is aged 6 and was born in 1953 so it's 1959! Do we know the make and model? On I-Player, it's at 3 minutes in!

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A forensic question about the date,
I wonder how long it took for the speaker aperture to darken in that familiar manner?
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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 6:41 pm   #175
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KB LFT50 1954 ?

Actually the tube look bigger so maybe the LFT100 1954.

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I'd never have thought of "dating by darkening" as Graham suggests-thanks for posting the link]. If it's a 1954 set, there's only five years to blacken the speaker outline but that was different times-coal fires etc Would it be the spkr magnet attracting fine dust/metallised particles or is it warm air from the interior collecting on the frame as it leaves via the grill? I'm guessing a Console KB would be a relatively high end purchase then!

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I think it's a great photo by the way!

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My TV22 at home. The two Crystal Palace Towers are within line-of-sight, which means anything remotely conductive behaves as an antenna, namely the triple RCA cable between my main source (a basic set top box with an usb port) and the hedghog, resulting in significant interference in the image. A shielded cable did not work either, and the fix was to use a cheap and relatively long (1.5m or so) triple cable twisted around 4 times (you can see this in the photo too).
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Ye Gods! 'Within line of sight' is a bit of an understatement, it's looking right down your chimney! I thought I'd got problems with Moorside Edge ten miles away.....
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Ye Gods! 'Within line of sight' is a bit of an understatement, it's looking right down your chimney! I thought I'd got problems with Moorside Edge ten miles away.....
Yes, I guess I should have said "right in my doorstep". The first tower is actually 200 meters away and, according to Wikipedia, its total power is around 1.3MW...
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Old 15th Apr 2021, 5:04 pm   #180
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I recently totted up the transmitter powers at CP, assumed they are erp's not eirp's and a mean frequency of 550 MHz, and fed this into the Ofcom ICNIRP calculator, I got a minimum safe distance of 434 metres.

Of course, this is 'in the beam' though....

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