[ChristianFletcher]

I just mentioned Altium as it is one of many I have used in fact I have used far too many to mention or remember. I do remember starting with a DOS package called Easy PCB. I won’t argue over Altium it is a high end and probably the number one package used by professional designers. It’s also one of the easiest to use. However I wouldn’t recommend it on this forum given its cost and relatively complexity is overkill for our requirements. Personally I don’t care much what people use as I said in my original post it’s a religion. Believe in whatever ever woo woo feels right for you.