I have just been reading various comments from above and that wathifi twaddle. Till now I kept away from commenting on the posts of 117 pages..but I cannot hold myself anymore..Up "T" North, we expect value for money, we / I dont accept "B******t" , normally..I have TWO Commercial radio's.... both for comparison purposes... as the noise background is S8/S9 on the HF bands........ so I will NEVER Buy one of those comparable expensive transceivers, where a lot of Radio amateurs have bigger wallets than brains. Personal choice.. yes..but mine. Anyway I have cloth ears