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Old 11th Oct 2018, 12:47 pm   #18
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Default Re: Unfair use of service manuals

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Originally Posted by Craig Sawyers View Post
I'm not sure how https://www.americanradiohistory.com/ has managed this trick, because it has a complete downloadable set of Wireless World and Practical Wireless (along with hundreds of other radio magazines).

Craig
In most cases, where the copyright owner can be found, they're contacted and if they object, the material is either not uploaded or is taken down in accordance with the site's 'Takedown Policy', which is in the FAQs on the site.

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Take-Down Policy:

www.americanradiohistory.com collections are accessible for purposes of education and research. Materials deposited into this Digital Archive may be removed or restricted at the request of the creator(s), contributor(s), or other individuals holding rights to the material. Upon request, we will remove material from public view while we address a rights issue.

Disclaimer:

www.americanradiohistory.com makes digital versions of collections and publications accessible in the following situations:

They are in the public domain
In the case of periodicals, the journal ceased publication and no apparent rights holder is accessible wherefore abandonment is assumed.
www.americanradiohistory.com has permission to make them accessible
The item is out of print and the publisher can not be located for further clarification.
We make them accessible for education and research purposes as a legal fair use, or
There are no known restrictions on use.
We have made the best effort to adhere to all known copyright and rights of privacy, publicity, or trademark of material, but due to the nature of archival collections we are not always able to identify this information. We are eager to hear from any rights owners, so that we may obtain accurate information.

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In the case of Practical Wireless, the American History site only has magazines up to 1999. Because PW is still in existence, it sells DVDs with five years of magazines on the, starting at 1965 - 69, continuing until the most recent full years - 2017. I guess that if PW got sniffy' they could say 'please remove all issues from 1965 to 1999. But American History gives a 'plug' to PW and encourages visitors to the site to consider buying the CDs, pointing out that they're far higher quality, stating thus:

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The files on this site are greatly compressed and optimized for web downloading. They are copy and print protected and authorized only in that fashion by the original publisher.

Click on the graphic to see how to order searchable high quality CDs from the
heirs to Practical Wireless. They are well worth the money if you are a serious collector.

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American History is a most remarkable site - the work of one man over many years, with help and support of others who have loaned or donated issues. It's entirely non-commercial and he will not accept donations if offered. Magazines are - for most people - 'ephemera' to be read then discarded. Had the site not have been created, most of what's on there would have been lost forever and we'd have been all the worse for it. There is no commercial value in most of the magazines, the publishers have often long since ceased to exist and the magazines aren't being used for commercial gain.

Back to the original topic of charging for service manuals:

There is a long established UK supplier of manuals who has been in existence before internet. Over the years, I've had several manuals from the firm and they've always been high quality copies. With the passage of time, a wide selection of manuals have appeared on internet, and interestingly, some of those carry that company's stamp. I guess that if the firm have, say, copied and supplied an AVO manual, whoever has bought it might think "it's not the supplier's property - it's AVOs, so I've as much right as he has to copy it and circulate it for nothing". Well yes and no - he had to source the manual, copy and print it (they're now downloads from his site) and had he not done so, maybe it wouldn't have appeared so widely in the first instance.

(We've been here before, several times).
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