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Scotorvm 25th Nov 2020 6:58 pm

Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
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Have attempted a restore of what is quite a large set, to me anyway.
I acquired this for £20, which seemed like a good deal when you look at all the workmanship on this.

The case was in poor condition, the laminate peeling, scratched and missing in sections.

Spent a few days on the case and replacing all the wax caps, before attempting to power up.

Audio is there, but very quiet, a couple of stations on MW, no external aerial plugged in for the test, hum from the speaker, but all quiet when the external speaker knob un-screwed on the rear, so somethings working.

Any pointers on where to start appreciated, no voltages checked so far.

Thanks again:thumbsup:

Scotorvm 25th Nov 2020 7:04 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Sorry, forgot to mention, resistors all check out OK.

John10b 25th Nov 2020 9:05 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Just as a starter switch to Gram and touch the PU sockets with metal probe , or your finger, with volume control turns right up you should get a Healthy buzz.
John

John10b 25th Nov 2020 9:12 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Sorry I should have asked do you have the service manual or circuit diagram?
John

Ed_Dinning 25th Nov 2020 9:12 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Hi Scot, voltage checks I'm afraid it has to be.
If you have the service data from the forum note that if your figures are within 10% of the values given there is no problem.

Also observe if anything is getting hot and resist the temptation to twiddle the coil cores and trimmer caps

Ed

Scotorvm 25th Nov 2020 9:48 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
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Originally Posted by John10b (Post 1314353)
Sorry I should have asked do you have the service manual or circuit diagram?
John

Hi John, thanks for the tip re the probe, will try that, I do have the circuit diagram.
Cheers.
Lee

Scotorvm 25th Nov 2020 9:50 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed_Dinning (Post 1314355)
Hi Scot, voltage checks I'm afraid it has to be.
If you have the service data from the forum note that if your figures are within 10% of the values given there is no problem.

Also observe if anything is getting hot and resist the temptation to twiddle the coil cores and trimmer caps

Ed

Thanks Ed, yes I have the DVD from the forum, back to work tomorrow, but will check next week :thumbsup:

Sideband 25th Nov 2020 10:25 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
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Originally Posted by Scotorvm (Post 1314323)
no external aerial plugged in for the test,

You WILL need an aerial to hear anything meaningful. It will be very quiet without one.

McMurdo 25th Nov 2020 11:43 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Most of my radios here would be pretty dead without an external aerial...at least ones without their own internal aerial like yours.

electrogram 26th Nov 2020 2:10 am

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Looking at the second pic it looks like some of the pF caps in the RF stages have been replaced... Built in frame aerial for MW/LW.

crackle 26th Nov 2020 9:40 am

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
What are those blue caps on the tag strip.

Mike

vinrads 26th Nov 2020 9:54 am

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Looks like the mica capacitors have been replaced! That needs checking out.

Mick.

Scotorvm 26th Nov 2020 4:28 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
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Originally Posted by crackle (Post 1314454)
What are those blue caps on the tag strip.

Mike

Mike

The blue caps are in on the strip paralleled to double the value to what it should be.

I replaced the small waxy pF caps too, should I have left them?:dunce:

Scotorvm 26th Nov 2020 4:29 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
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Originally Posted by vinrads (Post 1314463)
Looks like the mica capacitors have been replaced! That needs checking out.

Mick.

Mick, yes I replaced those, a mistake? the old ones were waxy and replaced with the correct pF rating.

Lee

HamishBoxer 26th Nov 2020 5:31 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Yes!

John10b 26th Nov 2020 6:02 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Do I understand correctly that the Radio works, after you changed the components, as you say in post #1, but with low volume?
John

Scotorvm 26th Nov 2020 9:55 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
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Originally Posted by John10b (Post 1314614)
Do I understand correctly that the Radio works, after you changed the components, as you say in post #1, but with low volume?
John

Yes John, on MW can hear at least 2 stations, very quiet at almost full volume, without an external aerial. I think I saved the pF wax caps from another Bush set which I can put in this set, if it would help.

Cheers
Lee

Simon Gittins 26th Nov 2020 10:16 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
The reason the advice is given not to change the pF values is that they are rarely faulty and to change them may affect the alignment. However, now that you have changed them, there is no point putting old wax types back in.
The best thing is to follow the advice in post 5 and carry out voltage checks. Changing the capacitors may not have affected alignment too badly and it's best not adjusted without a signal generator.

Scotorvm 27th Nov 2020 11:42 am

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Cheers Simon :thumbsup:

Freya 27th Nov 2020 2:09 pm

Re: Bush AC34 restoration - quiet audio, help, please.
 
Did you change any pF caps inside the cans ?


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