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llama 16th Sep 2019 10:12 am

Mystery A.M. transformer
 
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This is the transformer in the mystery RF device I recently offered. It has Air Ministry markings that look like 10M/162 or possibly 10A/162. It has about 10.5mm of laminations and the markings on one side are IP and OP with what looks like an unused tapping. On the other side it is marked OS, T2 and IS. I suppose these are all input/output, primary/secondary (apart from the "T2" connection).

Overall size is 5cm lamination length, 3.8cm max winding width and 2.9cm height. Coloured dark brown varnish.

I wonder if, just out of curiosity and a sense of completion, anyone has the appropriate AP that would identify the characteristics of the transformer and/or the equipment it's likely to have come from. Speculation welcomed!
Graham

Keith 16th Sep 2019 10:40 am

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Without checking, it sounds as if it might be one of the transformers from the A1134 intercom amplifier as used in the Lancaster bomber (like the one shown here about 2/3 down the page):

http://www.tibblestone.com/oldradios...adio/T1154.htm

If so, I'm afraid one or more of the windings is likely to be o/c.

M0FYA Andy 16th Sep 2019 11:13 am

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
More likely 10K/162.
This is shown in AP1086 as a Transformer Type 285, LF Output, overall ratio 1:2

Andy

Jon_G4MDC 16th Sep 2019 11:45 am

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Would those need a beehive trimmer capacitor and what looks like an inductor with an adjustable core at bottom left?

ms660 16th Sep 2019 11:52 am

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
The chassis look like an electrickery backing box...

Lawrence.

AC/HL 16th Sep 2019 12:17 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
It is: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=159770

ms660 16th Sep 2019 12:33 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
A 10K/162 transformer was used in the R1147 receiver.

Lawrence.

ms660 16th Sep 2019 1:06 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
As a guess it might be for IFT alignment?

Lawrence.

M0FYA Andy 16th Sep 2019 1:06 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ms660 (Post 1176714)
A 10K/162 transformer was used in the R1147 receiver.

Well spotted!

Andy

ms660 16th Sep 2019 1:09 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Thanks to a Radio Constructor archive.

Lawrence.

Jon_G4MDC 16th Sep 2019 1:17 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Ah I see, a transformer re-used for a spot of home brew. Sorry I took a while to catch on.

mickm3for 17th Oct 2019 6:09 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
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Thanks for device this is the circuit and valve line up pin numbers match resistor at top ht to anode is 56k
any one a clue as to where the green and the green/red wire would go also ideas on what it is ???? thanks Mick

G6Tanuki 17th Oct 2019 6:28 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
If the green wire is connected to the red/green wire, the double-triode becomes a "cathode-coupled oscillator" whose frequency is determined by the coil and capacitor.

mickm3for 19th Oct 2019 12:36 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Hi thanks connected green to red green fitted ECC81 6v+200v ht and got a carrier on 1.45 mhz . the other stage i would think is a af osc ? (does not work) caps way off value/oc so transformer is used as a modulation transformer. i would think this is an alignment aid or a marker osc. Will recap and retest Mick

G6Tanuki 19th Oct 2019 1:02 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Yes the other stage is an audio oscillator - like you said it's set up to tone-modulate the RF-oscillator, so your 'thing' is indeed probably an alignment-aid/test-signal-source for the medium-wave band.

G3VKM_Roger 19th Oct 2019 4:49 pm

Re: Mystery A.M. transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mickm3for (Post 1184888)
Hi thanks connected green to red green fitted ECC81 6v+200v ht and got a carrier on 1.45 mhz . the other stage i would think is a af osc ? (does not work) caps way off value/oc so transformer is used as a modulation transformer. i would think this is an alignment aid or a marker osc. Will recap and retest Mick

Or maybe a "pantry" transmitter so you can play recorded music or programmes onto a vintage RX?

73

Roger


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