UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum (https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/index.php)
-   Components and Circuits (https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=40)
-   -   Ge or Si transistors - any stability-difference if used in a VFO? (https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154895)

G6Tanuki 14th Mar 2019 3:31 pm

Ge or Si transistors - any stability-difference if used in a VFO?
 
I'm looking at building a 'classic' Vackar-style transistor VFO that will be operating around 3MHz and be powered from a 12V supply (suitably stabilised).

The circuits I've seen in 1960s RSGB and ARRL books - some use Ge transistors, some Si.

I've got both (no, whiskery AF11x-series are not included!) - are there likely to be any stability-benefits/disbenefits in going for Si over Ge? Or will any difference be more down to the physical characteristics of the particular transistor's encapsulation? I'm thinking of clamping the transistor-case to the case of the VFO-box to provide a smidgin of thermal-inertia.

kalee20 14th Mar 2019 3:53 pm

Re: Ge or Si transistors - any stability-difference if used in a VFO?
 
I tend to think Si will be more stable as the gain stages, and temperature effects will have less effect on them.

However, it is possible that a temperature drift caused by the tuned circuit may just happen to be compensated by an opposite drift in a Ge device. So AS A WHOLE the circuit may just happen to be more stable with Ge. Unlikely, but possible.

Radio Wrangler 14th Mar 2019 5:37 pm

Re: Ge or Si transistors - any stability-difference if used in a VFO?
 
G3PDM did a nice write up on a version of the Vackar for his receiver (Radcom/Bulletin) and RSGB handbook. The fun thing to find is an Oxley tempatrimmer. I put an alternative tempco trimmer in the ARRL handbook osc chapter... designed to be easy to set and free from unobtainium.

David

G6Tanuki 14th Mar 2019 6:51 pm

Re: Ge or Si transistors - any stability-difference if used in a VFO?
 
Yes I'm looking at the G3PDM version, though that uses a 2N3819 FET which would not be in the age-related spirit of my 'design'.

I have some old "MAT" germaniums!

Radio Wrangler 14th Mar 2019 8:58 pm

Re: Ge or Si transistors - any stability-difference if used in a VFO?
 
How about a 2N2926? - that overlaps far in the the years of the geranium.

David


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 4:35 pm.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.