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st.mellion 4th Aug 2004 8:45 pm

Alignment AC/DC Chassis
 
Hi,
I want to align a Bush DAC10. I have an Advance sig. gen. The Bush has a live chasis and the generator is earthed. How do I get round this ??

paulsherwin 4th Aug 2004 8:53 pm

Re: Alignment
 
The correct way is to use an isolation transformer and earth the chassis. The quick and dirty way is to use a suitably rated capacitor in the earth connection.

Make sure the chassis *isn't* live, i.e. is connected to mains neutral.

HTH, Paul

st.mellion 4th Aug 2004 8:55 pm

Re: Alignment
 
Thanks Paul. I'll give it a go.

Sideband 4th Aug 2004 9:01 pm

Re: Alignment
 
Hi st.mellion.

The correct way is to use an isolating transformer. this is the safest way to work on AC/DC chassis. However if you make sure that the chassis of the radio is definately connected to neutral (as it should be) then at a pinch you can disconnect the mains earth of the generator. This will at least ensure that when you connect the generator to the chassis of the set there will be no nasty bangs!!

I suppose you could also use an isolating capacitor in the earth lead of the generator and retain the mains earth....something like a .01uF at 1000volts. I've never tried this though.

Still emphasise that an isolating transformer is the only proper way.

What do other forum members think?


Rich.

paulsherwin 4th Aug 2004 9:45 pm

Re: Alignment
 
If you just want to do a simple RF/IF alignment you probably don't need to connect the generator to the radio chassis anyway. There'll be enough signal with just the signal probe connected.

As Richard says, an isolation transformer is always safer though.

Best regards, Paul

joe 5th Aug 2004 2:01 pm

Re: Alignment
 
If you do connect the sig.gen. to the chassis- not recommended anyway - but if you do, and you've carefully checked that the chassis is at neutral, then as a last check before actually making the connection just stick a meter between the generator earth and the chassis. It should read 2v- 3v ac.

With the best will in the world one can always make a mistake; if the meter reads 240v you can correct things before making it.

Joe

Richard 5th Aug 2004 10:15 pm

Re: Alignment
 
Hi all

If your house has an earth leakage trip, when you connect neautral to earth the 3 or 4 volt differance will be enough to trip the trip.

Richard.

Sideband 6th Aug 2004 12:02 pm

Re: Alignment
 
In which case it's probably better to use Pauls idea of 'loose coupling'. You should find that there is enough pick-up by just looping the generator output cable around the frequency changer valve making sure that the earth lead is insulated and well out of the way. For RF alignment you can place the output cable near the aerial rod (if it has one) or via a capacitor to the aerial socket (1000pF should be ok). If you connect the generator direct to the aerial socket it might cause too much damping and give poor results.


Rich.

st.mellion 6th Aug 2004 2:10 pm

Re: Alignment
 
Thanks to evryone for their advice. I feel much better informed and more confidant of approaching this now .....and more safely !!


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