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pentoad 29th Nov 2021 8:01 pm

Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Could Otex ear drops dissolve the hardened wax which prevents the fragile slugs from rotating?
The active ingredient is urea hydrogen peroxide (5% w/w). The other ingredients are 8-hydroxyquinoline and glycerol
Not sure if this could damage the coil former.

Goldieoldie 29th Nov 2021 8:53 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
If you heat the slug with a soldering iron just enough to soften the wax I find that works ok
Cheers
Pete

pentoad 30th Nov 2021 7:01 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldieoldie (Post 1428533)
If you heat the slug with a soldering iron just enough to soften the wax I find that works ok
Cheers
Pete

I have tried that but it did not work, it's still stuck that's why I'm considering Otex.
It might be damaged or cracked it's difficult to tell but the radio (Phiips 310A) is functional now, I'm not sure if it can be improved upon.
I may well leave it as it is.

Bazz4CQJ 30th Nov 2021 8:06 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
As a chemist, my instinct is that Otex is not the way to go, but I could be wrong. Are you really sure the stuff is wax and not something else like paint? Waxes tend to have 'modest' melting points.

Can you offer some more details on the formers? Are we talking IF coils, are they plastic or something else, what era are they. As you say, any approach needs to avoid damage to the formers.

Wickes do a paint and varnish remover which I have used successfully to soften various substances with (in the process of cleaning), and I suspect it would soften (real) wax, but I know that it does react with some plastics.

B

pentoad 30th Nov 2021 8:37 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
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Originally Posted by Bazz4CQJ (Post 1428827)
As a chemist, my instinct is that Otex is not the way to go, but I could be wrong. Are you really sure the stuff is wax and not something else like paint? Waxes tend to have 'modest' melting points.

Can you offer some more details on the formers? Are we talking IF coils, are they plastic or something else, what era are they. As you say, any approach needs to avoid damage to the formers.

Wickes do a paint and varnish remover which I have used successfully to soften various substances with (in the process of cleaning), and I suspect it would soften (real) wax, but I know that it does react with some plastics.

B

Philips 310A 1952 S14 coil slug

Bazz4CQJ 30th Nov 2021 8:57 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Why don't you get a sharp knife and lift of some of the excess wax which is on top of the can and experiment with it? If it doesn't melt at some reasonable temperature (<100'C), that would be off-putting, tending to suggest it is a material which has set and may need a strong solvent to soften it.

B

Sundog- 30th Nov 2021 8:58 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Never mind moving the stuck slug.
Add another ferrite slug and see if you can peak the coil. Leave it in if that works.
If the output goes down there is a need to reduce the inductance. Introduce a small piece of brass or aluminium rod into the former and see if it peaks, glue that in if it does.
If nothing peaks the coil then the existing slug is in exactly the right place.

This may not work with TV IF coils where the core affects coupling.

Bazz4CQJ 30th Nov 2021 9:02 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Curious that on the two transformers to the right, the slugs seem to be on brass screw shafts, but the coil that's highlighted is different.

B

radiomobile 30th Nov 2021 9:53 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Further to reply from John (Sundog) "back in the day" there was a device like a pencil called a Tuning Wand which had exactly what he described ie a ferrite slug at one end and a brass slug at the other.

pentoad 2nd Dec 2021 1:24 pm

Re: Hard wax on RF coil ferrite slugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundog- (Post 1428844)
Never mind moving the stuck slug.
Add another ferrite slug and see if you can peak the coil. Leave it in if that works.
If the output goes down there is a need to reduce the inductance. Introduce a small piece of brass or aluminium rod into the former and see if it peaks, glue that in if it does.
If nothing peaks the coil then the existing slug is in exactly the right place.

This may not work with TV IF coils where the core affects coupling.

I will try that, now I need to find some bits!


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