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slidertogrid 26th Feb 2021 10:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Panrock (Post 1346661)
A happy pair on the screen.

They're happy because the awful original insides of this Baird Townsman have been stripped out and replaced with much better ones - from a Bush TV24A.

Steve

Is that the cabinet that was on ebay some time ago? I went after one some time ago that was advertised as complete but when I got there the original chassis had been replaced with another, I think from a PYE. Working on the principle that there aren't many of them around (and thereby it was the same set) I suspect someone else then bought it, realised it had been butchered, removed the chassis and then resold the empty cabinet. The empty cabinet went for more than I had been offered it for as a complete set, albeit a "Frankenset" .
I wanted one as when I was a lad a schoolfriend tipped me off about an old set going for free when we got there it was a Baird but it had been outside in the rain so I left it behind, it was later seen on the rag and bone man's cart so I guess it was smashed up for the copper and scrap. I regretted then not trying to save it...
If it is the same cabinet I am glad that it got a telly inside it again, No chance I suppose of getting a Baird chassis being so rare? Back in the days when they were in service was the original chassis unreliable ? Maybe that is why it had been swapped?
Rich.

Panrock 26th Feb 2021 10:43 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
Hi Rich,

No, nothing like that. This set was originally obtained at auction locally, in Pershore, then fully restored (including the cabinet) by me, and run in original trim as a Baird for several years.

Eventually, when I was looking for a suitable basis for a 'main' set in my drawing room, I decided to rebuild it with a Bush TV24A chassis, and included some other features so I could view my collection of old VHS tapes (405 and 625) as well as standard Ch.1.

The full story is HERE. This may also appear in a future BVWS magazine.

Hope this helps,

Steve

peter_scott 26th Feb 2021 11:27 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
It does give a superb bright picture in a beautiful cabinet.

Peter

Panrock 27th Feb 2021 10:15 am

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Thanks Peter. In the interests of balance though, it is worth pointing out this tube has been restored/boosted on my Radar tester and is in fact slightly soft. Certainly, not as pin-sharp as Trevor's (MurphyV310) recently discovered tube. However I now have another TV24A donor set. Who knows what its tube will prove to be like?

Back to topic. Here are two views of the HMV 907 from 1938. The colour photo pre-dates digital and shows the example I used to own.

Steve

beery 27th Feb 2021 1:17 pm

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Hi All,
A few more for you.

Is the first one of any particular set?

The second one is definitely staged because you would not be able to see their faces clearly with a properly contrasted picture at the same time (no tinted glass on that CRT).

The third one is a Baird T5. Anyone guess the owner? Clue:-
If the other studio had found out that she had one of these, it could have led to a bountiful mutiny!

Cheers
Andy

peter_scott 27th Feb 2021 1:30 pm

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Hi Andy,

That T5 photo is great! It's not Elizabeth Cowell is it?

I guess Waterloo Station doesn't count as domestic.

Peter

beery 27th Feb 2021 1:42 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
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Hi Andy,

That T5 photo is great! It's not Elizabeth Cowell is it?

Peter

Close, but no cigar. You didn't spot the "Mutiny on the Bounty" reference. Yes, she is related...

Cheers
Andy

peter_scott 27th Feb 2021 1:57 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
You've lost me! If it's not Joan Miller then I'm never getting that cigar.

Peter???

beery 27th Feb 2021 2:05 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
It's Jasmine Bligh apparently. I can see that, but the hair colour is maybe not what you expect. It would be funny if it was Elizabeth Cowell and the original caption was wrong, but it is a possibility.

Jasmine Bligh was actually descended from Captain Bligh.

Cheers
Andy

peter_scott 27th Feb 2021 2:17 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
Jasmine didn't even enter my head on account of her hair but the Bligh name should have. Doh!

Peter:dunce:

Panrock 27th Feb 2021 2:26 pm

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Which control is she adjusting?

Steve

peter_scott 27th Feb 2021 2:28 pm

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Contrast. Certainly we don't get a very clear view of the screen image. Someone's shoulders??

Peter

red16v 27th Feb 2021 2:54 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
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Originally Posted by Panrock (Post 1346614)
Back to 1936 now, and this family have got in early, with a GEC in their library...

Steve

Would those library books be the manuals that went with it? :)

peter_scott 27th Feb 2021 3:21 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
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Originally Posted by red16v (Post 1347032)
Would those library books be the manuals that went with it? :)

Don't be silly. Those R&TVS books cover lots of makes.

Peter ;)

Radio Wrangler 27th Feb 2021 3:44 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
Now a silent key, Tom Christian was a well known radio amateur.... On Christmas Island, and yes, he was a direct descendent.

David

slidertogrid 27th Feb 2021 4:07 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
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Hi Rich,

Hope this helps,

Steve

Oh I see thanks for the clarification...
Rich

Panrock 27th Feb 2021 4:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Panrock (Post 1346614)
Back to 1936 now, and this family have got in early, with a GEC in their library...

Steve

Would those library books be the manuals that went with it? :)

That GEC picture from 1936 always seemed 'provincial posh' to me (1st pic - repeated here). After all, it's not every 1930s home that has a library. And you need to be a member of the educated class to have a new GEC. This could be in someone's castle.

But I doubt there'd be room for such a large library in the GEC house from 1939 (2nd pic)... distinctly suburban.

Meanwhile, over at Philips in 1939, we have this upmarket pair 'looking into it'... not provincial, more 'West End posh' (3rd pic).

Steve

Heatercathodeshort 27th Feb 2021 4:50 pm

Re: Television in the Home
 
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Yes I think your right Peter. The Philips equivalent is the 1502U. I had to look it up in the 'Television Engineers Pocket Book' to confirm the model number. It's an odd chassis with unexpected valves. Very rare today and even more so in a Mullard frock. I've only seen one in the flesh, at a jumble sale about the time Apache was a hit record with the Shadows and it was too big to haul home...Happy days. John.

Restoration73 27th Feb 2021 5:06 pm

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Great pic from Margaret Baird's 1973 book;

Panrock 27th Feb 2021 5:08 pm

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Originally Posted by peter_scott (Post 1346803)

Yes I think your right Peter. The Philips equivalent is the 1502U. I had to look it up in the 'Television Engineers Pocket Book' to confirm the model number. It's an odd chassis with unexpected valves. Very rare today and even more so in a Mullard frock. I've only seen one in the flesh, at a jumble sale about the time Apache was a hit record with the Shadows and it was too big to haul home...Happy days. John.

102 18s. Strewth!


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