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Blue Suede Ted 8th Oct 2019 10:14 am

Elizabethan tape recorder model 56
 
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Can anyone identify this Elizabethan tape recorder please?

The valves it uses are:- EF86, ECC83, EL84, and 6X4 rectifier.

Nickthedentist 8th Oct 2019 11:06 am

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
I can't see it on Radiomusem: https://www.radiomuseum.org/m/eap-e_gb_en_1~year.html

Presumably it's one of their earliest products. The fact that the model name is simply "Elizabethan" also points to this, I suppose.

OTOH, does it say "May 1960" on one of those big caps?

Good luck with it.

Nickthedentist 8th Oct 2019 11:08 am

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Dave has something about the company here: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...87&postcount=8

af024 8th Oct 2019 1:13 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Is this the Elizabethan 56?

Neutrino 8th Oct 2019 1:17 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
This has 2 clasps for the lid instead of a lock:
ELIZABETHAN 56
52 gns.
Tape Recording and Reproduction Magazine Sept 1957 Page 25
https://www.americanradiohistory.com...UK-1957-09.pdf

54 gns in March 1958 and the Essex is 75 gns:
https://www.americanradiohistory.com...UK-1958-03.pdf

Perhaps superseded by the new Elizabethan ESCORT which is advertised at only 45 gns in June 1958 page 5:
https://www.americanradiohistory.com...UK-1958-06.pdf

"A sound idea!" if you scroll down this:
https://thevintagetoyadvertiser.org/...appy-new-year/
Not identical but a lower price of 48 gns.

David

Nickthedentist 8th Oct 2019 1:54 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
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Good work, af024 and David!

Pic from the first link David's posted below...

Edward Huggins 8th Oct 2019 2:13 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
This looks to be in complete contrast to the far more value-engineered Elizabethan products of the early 1960s based around the BSR TD2 and Motek 3 speed decks.
Mind you they did the job well and sold in quite large volumes. And probably contributed to the demise of those Walter machines....

Techman 8th Oct 2019 2:29 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
It uses Collaro motors and almost looks home made.

In the above posted advert you can see that they actually use a complete Collaro deck in the 'de-luxe' model.

They must have had a deal with Collaro at the time to be able to use the motors in that in-house deck, unless, of course, the deck is actually made by Collaro for them. However, I seem to think that I've come across Collaro motors like that in other unusual in-house tape decks.

Hartley118 8th Oct 2019 2:43 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
That looks like a Motek K10 deck. Decent performance with excitingly fast wind speed!

Martin

Techman 8th Oct 2019 2:52 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
And fitted with three Collaro motors!

Blue Suede Ted 8th Oct 2019 3:22 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Electrolytic C’s are dated May 56.
It certainly looks like model 56.
I’ll see if there is a manual available.
Thanks for all the help.
Peter

wd40addict 8th Oct 2019 3:34 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Collaro were happy to sell motors on the open market, Scophany-Baird were one such customer, Motek look like they were another.

It could even been motor sales into the emerging tape deck market that persuaded Collaro to have a go themselves leading to the transcriptor.

Blue Suede Ted 8th Oct 2019 3:40 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Can’t locate a Elizabethan 56 service manual!
Has anybody got one I could buy or copy, or know where to get one?
Thanks
Peter

Restoration73 8th Oct 2019 5:55 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
If you send a PM I can scan the circuit and data from the Hellyer book and email it to you

Heatercathodeshort 8th Oct 2019 5:57 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
I have one of these recorders hidden away. I must locate it and post some pics. I thought it was badged FIDELITY but I may be wrong. John.

Restoration73 8th Oct 2019 7:34 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
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This circuit is the 56

Blue Suede Ted 9th Oct 2019 11:47 am

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Printed off cut. Thanks for all your help
Peter.

ColinTheAmpMan1 9th Oct 2019 5:59 pm

Re: Elizabethan tape recorder. ID?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Suede Ted (Post 1182158)
The valves it uses are:- EF86, ECC83, EL84, and 6X4 rectifier.

You neglected to mention the magic-eye.
Colin.

Blue Suede Ted 17th Oct 2019 12:25 pm

Elizabethan tape recorder model 56
 
Has anyone got a diagram of the motor and control wiring of Elizabethan 56 tape recorder, or know where I can get one?
Thanks
Peter


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