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wireless_paul 14th Aug 2003 5:04 pm

Scanning dial scales
 
Just wondered if when we service a wireless and when possible if it would be an idea to do a scan of the dial scale. We would then between us have a library of scales should any of us require a new one.

Paul

TrevorM6TSE 14th Aug 2003 6:18 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Champion idea!

Paul Stenning 14th Aug 2003 8:29 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Past Times Radio have already started doing this - there are a number at http://www.pasttimesradio.co.uk It would probably be best to send further scans there, so they are all in one place.

wireless_paul 14th Aug 2003 10:58 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Paul Stenning,
Yes that sounds a good idea; I had not seen this idea before (might have guessed if I had thought of something it could not be original!). Perhaps you could encourage members to send their scans. Perhaps my only worry would be what happens if Past Time Radio was to ever disappear. Think I might be tempted to copy them to a CD.
Paul

wireless_paul 14th Aug 2003 11:09 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Suppose it is a good idea to make a copy of a dial, just in case you have an accident whilst servicing a radio. I was thinking on these lines with my Audix wireless, don't think I would have much chance of finding another scale for this if the worst was to happen.
Paul

Keith 24th Aug 2003 10:23 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Having a scan of the dial is all very well, but how do you go about using it?

My current problem is with a Philips 461. This radio has the tuning scale sticking out of the top, edge lit from below. I thought maybe I could print the scale onto acetate (i.e. as used for overhead projection) and sandwich it between two pieces of glass.

The question is "how do you print in white?". Obviously there's not a lot of call for white ink - not terribly useful on paper! I've tried a light yellow but it's just not reflective enough :(.

Anyone got any ideas?

joe 25th Aug 2003 1:35 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Keith

I've mentioned an idea in this forum previously, it is possible to get very thin self adhesive transparency - about 50 - 100 microns. It comes on a sort of siliconised card and looks like glossy photo quality paper, but the transparency can be peeled off and stuck on glass etc.

It should be possible to print on this normally and stick it on the front of the dial, or print in reverse and stick it on the back of the dial.

Where do you get the stuff? Don't try WH Smith. They won't know what you are talking about, but have a look in computer magazines such as Micromart under paper supplies.

In fairness I have to admit that I have not yet tried this stuff for radio scales but I hold out some hope.

There is another similar thread somewhere in this forum where someone found out where to get decal transfer paper which I guess does a similar thing.

That leaves only one problem, how to print white. I wish I could answer that one but I'm still thinking about it. If you can come up with an answer please post it.

I have a Philips 462/A which is similar to your set and the scales which stick up are usually a casualty.

Joe

shaft 5th Sep 2003 8:42 pm

Re: Scanning dial scales
 
Just come accross this thread, and thought I'd add my (very limited) experience with this.

I recently cleaned up an old Ferguson radio which needed repairs to the tuning scale. I scaned the old one, cleaned it up in paint shop pro, then printed it onto waterslip transfer paper (available from www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk). Now for the clever bit: I printed a second version on plain paper, and used a craft knife to cut out those bits which were meant to remain clear. These were used as a "mask" on the back ofthe radio glass, which was then sprayed with white paint. This had the effect of "beefing up" the main colours (which were a little too tranparent once the transfer had been seperated from the backing paper), but would also leave any un-masked "clear" areas showing white.

Hope this makes sense!


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