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anikimtiaz1990 1st Feb 2019 8:28 am

Distributed amplifier
 
Hello..
Does anyone have the document named " distributed amplification" by ginzton and hewlett.? I dont have access on ieee group...and is unable to find any pdf.
Also can you guys suggest some good books on vacuum tube distributed amplifier desing...?
Thank you....

Radio Wrangler 1st Feb 2019 10:30 am

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
I have found it on the internet some time ago when looking for it, so it may still be out there. Noe was also one of the authors.

I had a paper copy at work which a librarian obtained from the British Library, so I didn't bother keeping an electronic copy when I found it on the internet. That paper copy, my desk, and the whole HP building are all long-gone, I'm afraid.

David

G0HZU_JMR 4th Feb 2019 9:25 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
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I have IEEE access at my PC at work so I had a go at downloading your doc.
However, it is 2.5Mb in size so it (just) exceeds the forum limits for a pdf file.

I've attached an image of the first page below. Is this the correct document?

If so I'll try and find a way to send it to you.

Terry_VK5TM 5th Feb 2019 3:28 am

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Try zipping it (as in .zip file) and see if it comes in under the 1.91Mb limit, then it can be posted here.

n_r_muir 5th Feb 2019 7:17 am

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Good practical examples of valve based distributed amplifier designs are used in the vertical amplifier stages of the Tektronix 545A and the 548A Oscilloscopes of the late 1950/ early 1960's. As far as I remember there is a good description of these in the Tektronix instruction/service manuals which can be downloaded from the BAMA website.

Ross

Radio Wrangler 5th Feb 2019 7:21 am

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
That is the right paper, Jeremy.

It is the seminal paper on distributed amplifiers. I had a copy in my files for decades.

All the design equations you need, and some interesting stuff on tapered lines.

David

G0HZU_JMR 5th Feb 2019 11:07 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Thanks, David.
It sounds like you might be interested in a copy too! Therefore, I've tried to upload it here:

https://www.qsl.net/g/g0hzu//RF%20Tr...F/01697772.pdf

Let me know if the link works for you.

I tried zipping the pdf file but it didn't reduce in size much. It was still too big... Hopefully, the link above will work.

Radio Wrangler 6th Feb 2019 12:46 am

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Thanks, Jeremy, that's a good clean copy. I think I may still have a copy of a copy somewhere, and it's complete with the references etc.

It's a really important paper. It set out the whole business, and lives on in the wideband integrated distributed amps going up into the millimetre bands.

Cheers,
David

GMB 6th Feb 2019 10:37 am

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
If you want to see an example of a really powerful one, look at this:

http://air-ministry.uk/Model122amplifier.pdf

m0cemdave 6th Feb 2019 7:44 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Chapter 10 of the book "Radio Transmitters" by V.O. Stokes is a full write-up on the design of the high power types. Worth a read if you can find it.

The 1kW amplifier panels (using 4CX250B's) occasionally turn up at radio rallies. I've seen at least two, over the years, at Stockwood Park. I don't know if anybody has got one going.

It seems there was a 40kW version too...

G6Tanuki 6th Feb 2019 8:29 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
They were used in cable-TV 'launch amplifiers' - the circuit of the type designed by EMI and used in the Abingdon cable-TV project is here:

http://www.aeolian-hall.myzen.co.uk/circuit.gif
http://www.aeolian-hall.myzen.co.uk/fig28a.gif

[Complete description of Abingdon cable-TV is here: http://www.aeolian-hall.myzen.co.uk/mva.htm ]

turretslug 6th Feb 2019 9:31 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMB (Post 1117866)
If you want to see an example of a really powerful one, look at this:

http://air-ministry.uk/Model122amplifier.pdf

Last year at Dunstable Downs someone was offering something rather like that (as I recall), a row of 4CX- style devices. Quite an impressive beast.

anikimtiaz1990 7th Feb 2019 8:53 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
Hello evryone....
I apologise for the late reply.....i am really sorry......
And i got the paper......thank you all for your help and kind suggestion.your opinion is very valuable to me....as where i live no one knows anything about vacuum tube technology....i have nowhere to go...but got a great place to talk here.....

anikimtiaz1990 7th Feb 2019 8:57 pm

Re: Distributed amplifier
 
I am just wondering. ..that can i make the range to more low frequency? ...like from 10 hz to 1 mhz...? I am new to tube electronics....so trying to keep the power as low as 50 watt per se....as some of you people suggested me earlier.....can i cover this range as i mentioned previously with this technique....?
And thank you all again.....


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