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Old 18th Apr 2014, 8:10 pm   #1
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Hi, is there a way to use a candlestick phone 156, without a bell box.
Even just as an extension phone.
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 8:41 pm   #2
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Your best bet would be using the circuit board from a 746 telephone
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 9:59 pm   #3
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See also this thread; https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?p=187628
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 10:41 pm   #4
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I have one or two 746 phones I can use or a 300 model that's only good for parts, I think I will make a basic wooden bell box for the guts to go into.
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It is several ways to use it without the original sub set. If you have intentions of using it for hours, the sub set are of importance, used for a few minutes now and then, it may even be used without. The sub set has several functions. It contains the ringer, and some kind of circuit protecting the receiver from demagnetizing (this may happen without the circuit, after hours and hours of use) The circuit will improve the voice quality, and may reduce the sidetone (hearing yourselves). The simplest D.i.Y. circuit may be a resistor and a capacitor only.

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Old 21st Apr 2014, 11:17 pm   #6
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I know I'm not going to be able to dial out with this phone with the telephone provider I have, but I would like to get it working, rather than just an ornament.
The phone was not wired up at all, so I have wired it up internally as per 150 wiring diagram.
Next, making a bell box for the 746 parts, wirings going to be another matter.
Stamped on one side of the phone it has No156, No4 crossed out and AK20 and 236 on the other, so I gathers it a 1920's phone.
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 2:20 am   #7
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You could always use the innards of a cheap modern phone ..... That will even do DTMF dialling for you.

You'd have to do a bit of work adapting the modern phone's electret mic to fit into the candlestick's transmitter housing; but the circuit should work OK with the candlestick's receiver speaker.
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If you really are with a telephone provider that doesn't accept loop disconnect dialling, given that you are intending to use 746 innards for a bell set, you could always include a Rotatone unit to convert the LD pulses to DTMF tones - including simulation of "*" and "#".
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Old 26th Apr 2014, 12:41 pm   #9
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I can recommend a rotatone. I used one for years in a Bakelite phone I had in the office before we were converted to voip. It sounds a bit odd to hear the tone as you dial but you soon get used to it. It even has several number memories.
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Old 20th May 2014, 1:40 pm   #10
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I haven't got that far just yet, I'm having problems wiring it up.
the wiring diagram on the base is for this phone 156 LB MK234, what I can see on the net is to basically wire it as a 150, but this one has double the amount of receiver hook switches, as per the 156LB No256 diagram. I'm not to worried about having a dial fitted or go back to the original wiring without the dial.
I have wired it up the same as the diagram in the base, after that I'm stuck.
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Old 23rd May 2014, 8:14 am   #11
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Hopefully the candlestick phone is all sorted now after some rewiring, just the bell set to wire up.

I got another phone it turned up in the post yesterday, it seems to be a 60's re-pro, but it was cheap, I gave it a clean up and it needs some of the wiring replacing as its a little basic, but it did clean up well.
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Old 23rd May 2014, 9:59 am   #12
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but it did clean up well.
Dang dude!!! Very nice job restoring that phone! I bet you used a gallon of Brasso!!!
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Old 24th May 2014, 10:57 pm   #13
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Brasso, never touch the stuff, a big motor and buffing wheel, saves time too.

It's all wired up and working fine. Waiting for some parts for the 150 to turn up and that will be finished also, fingers crossed it also works.
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