Telephone No. 232 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Graham G3ZVT · 6th Aug 2017, 12:21 pm

I have just acquired my first 200 series, it's in a slightly sorry state, but not too bad, I'll post some pictures later. first a question, how do I remove the governor weight/worm shaft? I've removed the obvious screw but it wont clear the cup.
Do I need to attack it from the front? If so, how do I remove the number ring?

Graham.
G3ZVT

<EDIT>
Belay all that, I've found the big circlip holding the number ring and now it's all obvious.

Dave Moll · 6th Aug 2017, 1:30 pm

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how do I remove the number ring?

I'm glad you've got it figured out, if you'll excuse the pun, and I look forward to progress reports.

OscarFoxtrot · 6th Aug 2017, 3:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Dave Moll

I'm glad you've got it figured out, if you'll excuse the pun

all-figured out?

Pellseinydd · 6th Aug 2017, 7:09 pm

You'll find plenty of info on GPO dials and their adjustment/maintenance on Bob Freshwater's 'British Telephones' at http://www.britishtelephones.com/dials/dialrep.html and http://www.britishtelephones.com/dial1.htm - a mine of info about all things 'British telephones' can be found there.

Ian

Graham G3ZVT · 7th Aug 2017, 5:54 am

Yes it was the exploded diagram on that second site that gave me the clue about the circlip.

The pictures will have to follow later, things were not straightforward. I managed to sort out the most serious fault with the aid of a blowtorch

can anyone guess how?

I'm really pleased with the result.

I've still got a couple of questions, but they'll have to wait till later.

Graham.
G3ZVT

Graham G3ZVT · 7th Aug 2017, 10:16 pm

See if you can spot the blowtorch in these
https://www.***********/gp/g3zvt/dUC3zd
Please note that I am not advocating that anyone should make this repair, it's potentially quite dangerous!

I am not sure if I broke the spring, yes I made the classic mistake of removing both the small screws in the boss to which the finger-plate is attached, I now know the correct way to release the spring tension!

I think only one turn of tension was (explosively) released when I removed the screws, which is consistent with the outside end of the spring already being detached, as friction holds it in place until you rotate the dial halfway.

Anyhow the dial is working fine now as is the rest of the phone.

Any comments?
I would particularly like some advice on how I could smarten up up number-ring, looks like the lady of the house had sharp nails, also, I know I could renew the platted cables, but is there any mileage in dyeing them somehow?

Graham.
G3ZVT

ThePillenwerfer · 7th Aug 2017, 10:30 pm

The only thing I could suggest to smarten up the number ring, apart from fitting a repro, would be a water-slide transfer, about which there is plenty on the forum. I wouldn't like to speculate as to how well it would wear though.

You wouldn't have anything to loose by dying the cords but dye isn't cheap, unless you come up with a home-made concoction. I'd either leave them alone and get reproduction ones at some future point or make my own.

I like 232s. I've now got two and fear that they may prove to be the DAC90a of the telephone world.

6th Aug 2017, 12:21 pm	#1
Graham G3ZVT Dekatron Join Date: May 2010 Location: Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 18,710	Telephone No. 232 I have just acquired my first 200 series, it's in a slightly sorry state, but not too bad, I'll post some pictures later. first a question, how do I remove the governor weight/worm shaft? I've removed the obvious screw but it wont clear the cup. Do I need to attack it from the front? If so, how do I remove the number ring? Graham. G3ZVT <EDIT> Belay all that, I've found the big circlip holding the number ring and now it's all obvious. Last edited by Graham G3ZVT; 6th Aug 2017 at 12:36 pm. Reason: Lightbulb moment!

6th Aug 2017, 7:09 pm	#4
Pellseinydd Heptode Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Flintshire, UK. Posts: 707	Re: Telephone No. 232 You'll find plenty of info on GPO dials and their adjustment/maintenance on Bob Freshwater's 'British Telephones' at http://www.britishtelephones.com/dials/dialrep.html and http://www.britishtelephones.com/dial1.htm - a mine of info about all things 'British telephones' can be found there. Ian

7th Aug 2017, 5:54 am	#5
Graham G3ZVT Dekatron Join Date: May 2010 Location: Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 18,710	Re: Telephone No. 232 Yes it was the exploded diagram on that second site that gave me the clue about the circlip. The pictures will have to follow later, things were not straightforward. I managed to sort out the most serious fault with the aid of a blowtorch can anyone guess how? I'm really pleased with the result. I've still got a couple of questions, but they'll have to wait till later. Graham. G3ZVT

7th Aug 2017, 10:16 pm	#6
Graham G3ZVT Dekatron Join Date: May 2010 Location: Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 18,710	Re: Telephone No. 232 See if you can spot the blowtorch in these https://www.**********/gp/g3zvt/dUC3zd Please note that I am not advocating that anyone should make this repair, it's potentially quite dangerous! I am not sure if I broke the spring, yes I made the classic mistake of removing both the small screws in the boss to which the finger-plate is attached, I now know the correct way to release the spring tension! I think* only one turn of tension was (explosively) released when I removed the screws, which is consistent with the outside end of the spring already being detached, as friction holds it in place until you rotate the dial halfway. Anyhow the dial is working fine now as is the rest of the phone. Any comments? I would particularly like some advice on how I could smarten up up number-ring, looks like the lady of the house had sharp nails, also, I know I could renew the platted cables, but is there any mileage in dyeing them somehow? Graham. G3ZVT

7th Aug 2017, 10:30 pm	#7
ThePillenwerfer Octode Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sheffield, South Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,453	Re: Telephone No. 232 The only thing I could suggest to smarten up the number ring, apart from fitting a repro, would be a water-slide transfer, about which there is plenty on the forum. I wouldn't like to speculate as to how well it would wear though. You wouldn't have anything to loose by dying the cords but dye isn't cheap, unless you come up with a home-made concoction. I'd either leave them alone and get reproduction ones at some future point or make my own. I like 232s. I've now got two and fear that they may prove to be the DAC90a of the telephone world. __________________ "Experts are only good at one thing: explaining why something will not work!"