UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Vintage Television and Video

Notices

Vintage Television and Video Vintage television and video equipment, programmes, VCRs etc.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 25th Nov 2014, 11:17 pm   #1
Restoration73
Nonode
 
Restoration73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK.
Posts: 2,801
Default GEC BT452 Television.

Pristine inside. First light shows a very bright AW47-91, although the
field timebase is running at the wrong speed.
Note this is the early 405 only version, none of this "convertible" or
"dual standard" nonsense here.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF5882.jpg
Views:	401
Size:	70.5 KB
ID:	100633   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF5884.jpg
Views:	448
Size:	127.3 KB
ID:	100634  
Restoration73 is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2014, 12:35 am   #2
FERNSEH
Dekatron
 
FERNSEH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK.
Posts: 7,444
Default Re: Gec bt452

This 1962 model was a pure Radio and Allied Industries design (Sobell) unlike the BT448 series which was also made after the takeover of GEC Radio and Television by R & A.
Your BT452 was made in the R & A works in Hirwaun, Wales. The Coventry made BT448 still incorporated a few design elements of the older GEC pre 1961 models.
As well as the "convertible" BT452, dual standard models BT452DS and BT452DS-T also appear in the Radio and Television books.
A McMichael "Black Rose" version was also made. Same cabinet shape, just a few trim differences.

DFWB.
FERNSEH is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2014, 9:01 am   #3
Restoration73
Nonode
 
Restoration73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK.
Posts: 2,801
Default Re: Gec bt452

It's light enough to be a portable, lighter than the earlier TPS173, which uses a similar
incremental tuner. There are two bungs on the side of the cabinet for the non-existent
standards switch and UHF tuner, with an un-punched hole for uhf aerial on the back.
Restoration73 is offline  
Old 26th Nov 2014, 10:42 am   #4
Heatercathodeshort
Dekatron
 
Heatercathodeshort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Warnham, West Sussex. 10 miles south of DORKING.
Posts: 9,147
Default Re: Gec bt452

Nice receivers with a reliable LOPT [hands crossed...] Excellent picture and no nasties. The double sided print is a doddle once you remember to unsolder the components from the component side and not on the 'solder' side as is usual. Use a temperature controlled iron and melt the solder thoroughly before lifting the component lead with a hook ended 'picker'. One of Radio and Allied Holdings best.
Strange how these addresses are burned into your brain. For a while the spares dept was situated at 719 North Circular Road, London NW2. Tel: GLAdstone 6454.
On many occasions I used to make the trek along the old North Circular Road A406 to pick up urgent spares.
That was back in the days when the 1930's road was crammed with factories and was a frenzy of industry and employment, many of which were connected with the electrical industry. Happy Days! John.
Heatercathodeshort is offline  
Old 3rd Feb 2015, 7:27 pm   #5
Restoration73
Nonode
 
Restoration73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK.
Posts: 2,801
Default Re: Gec bt452

Now completed - a few resistor values had changed. If anything there is
a tendency to excessive width, although I can find no fault with the line TB.
The picture is better than shown, in fact very good for a basic set.
The line displacement is down to my video source but I hope to have another
converter soon.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF5944.jpg
Views:	316
Size:	47.1 KB
ID:	103653  
Restoration73 is offline  
Old 4th Feb 2015, 10:13 am   #6
Heatercathodeshort
Dekatron
 
Heatercathodeshort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Warnham, West Sussex. 10 miles south of DORKING.
Posts: 9,147
Default Re: Gec bt452

Great picture! Not a lot to fail with this series. Many examples were a bit 'odd' with very slight foldover on the left from new. John.
Heatercathodeshort is offline  
Old 6th Feb 2015, 12:30 am   #7
Restoration73
Nonode
 
Restoration73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK.
Posts: 2,801
Default Re: Gec bt452

Oh I'm glad it's not me then. Normally excess width is poor eht regulation but not here.
I was able to move the picture a bit more to the right by unsoldering the 300pF from the anode of the sync sep to ground, although this means line sync may tear with weak signals that is not a problem, in fact the set gain is high. I am thinking of construction the optional flywheel sync board as it only has a few passive components.
Now to do the other 12 sets.......
Restoration73 is offline  
Old 6th Mar 2015, 12:18 am   #8
BGmidsUK
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Leicester, UK.
Posts: 809
Default Re: Gec bt452

I've just got round to reading some threads I opened a while ago (slow computer, distracted by the cats etc.) and found this again.
Lovely little set and excellent results.

The "excessive width" issue seems to be common; I've seen many sets like this. More recent sets don't even provide a means of adjusting the width without access to service menus, much to my annoyance! I wonder if the HT is a bit high .. or would the increased EHT (over)compensate for this?


Brian
BGmidsUK is offline  
Old 6th Mar 2015, 9:05 am   #9
Heatercathodeshort
Dekatron
 
Heatercathodeshort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Warnham, West Sussex. 10 miles south of DORKING.
Posts: 9,147
Default Re: Gec bt452

Check the position of the line linearity sleeve but don't push it in too far! J.
Heatercathodeshort is offline  
Old 6th Mar 2015, 11:34 am   #10
Focus Diode
Octode
 
Focus Diode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Borough of Gateshead, UK.
Posts: 1,420
Default Re: Gec bt452

Very nice sets indeed. I used to have a tatty McMichael MT763 DS-T fully dual standard model. The IF panel which included the system switch is wired in that version. I'm sure the speaker is on the opposite side to the BT452.

Cheers,
Brian
Focus Diode is offline  
Old 15th Mar 2015, 11:16 am   #11
The teleman
Pentode
 
The teleman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: County Durham, UK.
Posts: 243
Default Re: GEC BT452 Television.

Hi
Great set ! If your still getting excessive width it could be due to the PY33 rectifier. I think the original is PY32 the PY33 with give slightly increased HT

All the best
Chris
The teleman is offline  
Closed Thread




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 8:49 pm.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.