Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Vinylista · 25th May 2015, 5:50 pm

Hi

I have a Garrard SP25 MkIII in a Fidelity Housing on my dining room table. The transport seems to have the same issues as the MkII I recently restored. I am reasonably happy I can sort the fact the tone arm sticks halfway through the playing action.

First things first. The unit has a built in tuner / amp and I want to see if the whole affair works. However the speakers outs seem to be phono and I am not sure of which was around to wire the speaker cables or what Ohms to hang of the end of them.

Any thoughts?

David

RojDW48 · 25th May 2015, 7:03 pm

Standard should be +ve pole (centre) -ve outer shroud - most important is they are connected in phase, ie, the same way to each speaker (or you lose the stereo image). Selection of nominal speaker impedance will depend on the output of the amp but you should be safe enough with 8 ohms.

RojDW48 · 25th May 2015, 7:05 pm

You are sure these are speaker outputs? The Americans often use RCA phono outs for speakers, but it is unusual in Europe.

Vinylista · 25th May 2015, 7:09 pm

It says "speakers right and left" above the phonos... not conclusive proof with old kit but a pretty good guide...

RojDW48 · 25th May 2015, 7:14 pm

Aha! That's what they want you to think!......as you say - that's a pretty good clue.

Nickthedentist · 25th May 2015, 8:59 pm

Sounds like the Fidelity UA1, which does indeed have speaker outputs via phono sockets:

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/fidelit...eiver_uai.html

Vinylista · 26th May 2015, 6:26 pm

That is the one although the tone arm and the platter are slightly different.

Lovely looking deck!

D

sp10mk11 · 26th May 2015, 6:29 pm

yes it is a bit different, some one has managed to fit a SME type fitting headshell on it!!!! that will do wonders for the tracking angle

Gary

Nickthedentist · 26th May 2015, 6:31 pm

Yes, that made me laugh!

25th May 2015, 5:50 pm	#1
Vinylista Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Buntingford, Hertfordshire, UK. Posts: 51	Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers Hi I have a Garrard SP25 MkIII in a Fidelity Housing on my dining room table. The transport seems to have the same issues as the MkII I recently restored. I am reasonably happy I can sort the fact the tone arm sticks halfway through the playing action. First things first. The unit has a built in tuner / amp and I want to see if the whole affair works. However the speakers outs seem to be phono and I am not sure of which was around to wire the speaker cables or what Ohms to hang of the end of them. Any thoughts? David

25th May 2015, 7:03 pm	#2
RojDW48 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 2,074	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers Standard should be +ve pole (centre) -ve outer shroud - most important is they are connected in phase, ie, the same way to each speaker (or you lose the stereo image). Selection of nominal speaker impedance will depend on the output of the amp but you should be safe enough with 8 ohms.

25th May 2015, 7:05 pm	#3
RojDW48 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 2,074	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers You are sure these are speaker outputs? The Americans often use RCA phono outs for speakers, but it is unusual in Europe.

25th May 2015, 7:09 pm	#4
Vinylista Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Buntingford, Hertfordshire, UK. Posts: 51	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers It says "speakers right and left" above the phonos... not conclusive proof with old kit but a pretty good guide...

25th May 2015, 7:14 pm	#5
RojDW48 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 2,074	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers Aha! That's what they want you to think!......as you say - that's a pretty good clue.

25th May 2015, 8:59 pm	#6
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,864	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers Sounds like the Fidelity UA1, which does indeed have speaker outputs via phono sockets: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/fidelit...eiver_uai.html

26th May 2015, 6:26 pm	#7
Vinylista Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Buntingford, Hertfordshire, UK. Posts: 51	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers That is the one although the tone arm and the platter are slightly different. Lovely looking deck! D

26th May 2015, 6:29 pm	#8
sp10mk11 Octode Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 1,275	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers yes it is a bit different, some one has managed to fit a SME type fitting headshell on it!!!! that will do wonders for the tracking angle Gary

26th May 2015, 6:31 pm	#9
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,864	Re: Garrard SP25 MkIII - Fidelity housing - Phonos for speakers Yes, that made me laugh!