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Old 16th Aug 2017, 7:27 pm   #1
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Pictured are just a few of the 14 radio that I have accumulated. There are many that I would like to buy, however need to slow down on the spending
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 8:30 pm   #2
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Interesting clean looking sets Dave in a stylish setting. Probaly much better than rooms piled high with all sorts of gear which [as with me] is probaly more the norm, Uk wise anyway
Can you ID them?

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Old 16th Aug 2017, 8:54 pm   #3
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That Ferguson 218UXL appears to be the South African version of the UK 208UL. It has MW and two SW as opposed to the UK version with MW LW SW. I rather like the painted-in pale blue grille. Nice collection so far, you will be up to the 150 plus within five years like many of us on here so good to clear some space for new arrivals
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The GEC is a nice looking set - a BC6738 possibly or the export version of it?
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I think most of us vintage wireless collectors have been through the long and painful phase of 'hard collecting', some of us seemingly with the intent of 'getting the full set'. I was like that for many years until I realised my house was just full of clutter and had become difficult to live in and enjoy. I now tend to specialise - I still find it difficult to not go mad though - but I no longer want a house full of stuff in wardrobes, under beds, in the attic, spare rooms, in the shed - anywhere and everywhere!

Nice collection you have there, but be careful, it can take over and eventually become a liability and a problem. Don't forget, just like a computer, each and every one of those sets occupies some computing power in your head (what needs to be done to it, missing parts etc), and that power drain grows and grows and it all drags you down eventually, you stop enjoying it, it becomes a chore. It happened to me. But I came out the other side, still collecting, just wiser..
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What does WHS stand for Chris? Not W.H. Smiths presumably.
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 2:46 pm   #8
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Nice tidy looking radios, I remember when I started collecting I just bought anything with a valve in it and ended up with just too many rather dull radios with missing bits and often not working.
I now specialise mainly in interesting Bakelite sets and Murphys and have them all looking nice and working well. Quality rather than quantity!
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I am sorry to say but 98% of our junk will end up in a skip on our passing. Talk of valuable heritage and other illusions sadly will not be respected. Museums are bursting at the seams with electrical history and they don't want any more exhibits.

Whoever inherits your collection will not be interested in any of it and won't waste any time in dumping everything so that your house and any other financial accounts can be secured for new cars, holidays and useless junk they don't need. [They rarely put the inheritance to good use such as paying off the mortgage]

Very sad I know but I have seen this over and over again, not just in the radio/television collectors but in other interests where rare and valuable items have ended up in the scrap or left to rot in a field.

Probate has now become a very expensive procedure with fees charged on just about everything including the value of the estate. The less to deal with the better and nobody would be willing to pay the exorbitant dragged out fees by solicitors to sort out a house full of old radios.

Enjoy your collections, I certainly do but don't expect your treasures to be valued after your death. I can assure you they won't be. We are the last generation to be interested in the history of radio and television. Even programme presenters don't know the basic history of their trade. Keep smiling, John.
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Absolutely true in every respect John.

When I die my executers will have to clear and sell my house within 6 months in order to pay the Inheritance Tax which will run into 6 figures. You're not granted probate until you've paid the Inheritance Tax and you need probate to get your hands on the money to pay the Inheritance Tax. Work that one out!

My executers won't want to be bothered with selling my collection for say £1000 only to have to pay another £400 in Inheritance Tax. The collection will end up in a skip.
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Maybe we can put a stipulation in our wills to avoid this?
All listed items in this will must be sold, not disposed of ,skipped or junked?
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It's not hard to write into a will where your 'objects of desire' should go on your death. Don't anyone tell me that they can't think of at least half a dozen people (half a dozen people on here for starters) or societies/specialist museums who wouldn't each accept some of them?

Your vintage wireless collection doesn't have to go to landfill! - it's up to you where it goes! I mean, leave it to someone or people who have no interest in it, and yes, it will end up in landfill! - it's not rocket science! Just make a will out that stipulates it goes to people who you know will want it! I'll have it (laughs)
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Assuming the almost certain case that family members will want to dispose of it all as soon as possible...

If you belong to BVWS (or VMARS if it's amateur or military kit) or a local Radio Club, then I'd have thought a stipulation that they are offered the whole lot, to be auctioned to members, would be a good idea.

The proceeds can be either donated to the organisation or received after paying their commission.

That should ensure that it goes to appreciative buyers rather than landfill (or money-grabbing internet traders), even if the financial value is low. It should also ensure that any unexpectedly valuable items, like that box of Unobtanium in a forgotten corner of the garage, realise their worth.
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Unless the laws on inheritance tax have changed in the last few years, there are some errors in the above.

Within 6 months of the death you have to value the estate (you do not have to involve a solicitor in most cases, the value of assets such as a bank account is trivial to find, you can get the house valued by an estate agent and you do not need a formal valuation of any item worth less than £500 (I think) which would cover most radios.)

You have to pay the full tax on things like the bank accounts, radios, car, etc. But only 10% of the tax on the house (and certain other types of asset that didn't apply to me). You can then pay off the tax on the house over 10 years (HMRC do charge interest but it is not excessive) but if you sell the house the full tax becomes liable.

I did talk to a solicitor who said that in most cases the contents of the house are valued at a very low sum (like £200 the lot) unless there are clearly items of value like antiques.

I was also told that no part of the estate, not even things that appear to have low value, can be disposed of (either for money, or dumped) until probate is granted.

I would suggest appointing an executor (who doesn't have to be a solicitor) who has some idea of the interest and value (not necessarily financial) of the radios, etc.
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I am going through this process at the moment as my mother died recently. Tony has it right, IHT is due immediately probate is granted but probate valuations are generally low. Myself and my 3 siblings are executors and we have shared out some of the content and some we are putting out to auction houses. Nothing will go to the skip, the last step will be a clearance company. Probate is where auction houses and clearance companies make their money.
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And remember that the value for probate is what you can sell the item for, not what it would cost to replace it. There is often a big difference, with the former being much lower.
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These two collection threads are quietly merging [in addition to the link in the other one]. I wonder if the mods would think it appropriate to combine them in some way?

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I am sorry to say but 98% of our junk will end up in a skip on our passing. Talk of valuable heritage and other illusions sadly will not be respected.

Whoever inherits your collection will not be interested in any of it and won't waste any time in dumping everything so that your house and any other financial accounts can be secured for new cars, holidays and useless junk they don't need.

Enjoy your collections, I certainly do but don't expect your treasures to be valued after your death. I can assure you they won't be. We are the last generation to be interested in the history of radio and television.
Sadly, I think that is exactly the case. There has never been a great interest in old electrical/ electronic gear by the vast mass of people- most of us that do have an interest have probably been involved in the sale or repair of these goods in the past and so nostalgia is the driving force.

You only have to look at the age group of people who go to Harpenden, RWB, NVCF etc. to realise that the average age is probably 70 plus. There are very few people younger than me (50) so there is an ever decreasing amount of people and an ever increasing amount of gear being disposed of.
In 20 years time there will be very few left!!

The same is equally true in the classic car world. As John said 'we are the last generation who will be interested (or indeed able to repair) old TV and radio equipment'. It will simply have no relevance for the next generation.

All rather sad but I think that's the only likely outcome.
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