Radio PYE without model

[RastaMan0]

Its really mix radio)maybe)

[Station X]

To sum up, this is a radio made by Pye for export to The Middle East. The tuning scale is ample evidence of that.

The "Clairton Paris" label is a dead end. Not hits on google.fr or on French Vintage Radio websites.

Radio Museum shows many Pye sets with a similar front layout ie speaker on left, tuning scale on right and four controls in a horizontal line at the bottom. None of them match this set externally or internally though.

Obtaining service information for export sets is difficult and often impossible. However export sets were often based on domestic sets with the main difference being the wavebands covered.

If we knew what valves/tubes were fitted to this set, is might be possible to locate a circuit diagram which is a reasonably close match.

[ms660]

The rectifier and the output valves have done the shuffle....

Lawrence.

[boxdoctor]

I notice that in post 5, 'photo 4, the words "Made in Germany" are visible, stamped on the chassis.
Could it be a completely different make, with a Pye scale glass put in to replace the original "whatever-it-was" one for cosmetic reasons? Tony.

[ms660]

That's on the capacitor so far as I can make out (Made in Germany)

Lawrence.

[Boater Sam]

On top of the coil pack, is the number "410" written with a continental "1" with a long tail on the top, often confused with a 7?
If so it would seem to be a hybrid, european coil box and some components with English speaker, PYE glass, odd English components but with a SERT label who I don't know on the chassis.
The cabinet is not like any English set I can recall but could of been made anywhere.

[ms660]

The SERT label is on another receiver he has.

I've drawn a blank so far on that one.

Lawrence.

[RastaMan0]

Yeah Sert its another receiver.
What is the historical value of this radio?

And about loudspeaker i am seach in google
and results https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/British_Rola

This receiver have transistor i can take photo if you need.

[See_Mos]

This one is for sale on the usual auction site right now. It is also described as a French Pye and has some similarities though this one has side contact valves.

Looking at the pictures the one we are looking at is a very basic model.

Starting with what we see, the valves are international octal so later than 1937 and earlier than 1950. Looking at the components I think much earlier, though it could be 1945 - 46. With components in short supply anything available was used so that might explain the German capacitor which looks original

Starting from the left the original valve lineup was probably 6K8, 6K7, 6Q7, 6V6, 5Z4 though the first three could have been ECH35, EF39, EBC33

[ms660]

The chassis in the OP's receiver looks like it was punched out for single ended or push pull output.

The audio output transformer looks like it has a hum cancelling winding.

Lawrence.

[Station X]

RastaMan0

What valves/tubes are fitted in you set?

[ms660]

I reckon the cabinet was made in France:

https://www.doctsf.com/grandlivre/fi...icher_photos=1

Notice the angle of inward slope on the bottom part of the cabinet where the knobs are, also the detail on the vertical side pieces of the front panel frame, Pye cabinets that were made in the UK also had an inward slope but much more so, but the control shafts protruded above that slope not through it like what's shown in the link so far as I can find out.

Also notice the wave band indicator cord and pulley in photo 5 in that link then look at the 1st photo in Post#5, there's the remains of something there in the same position, also you can see a hole in the shaft of the wave band shaft that could be there for the cord feed through for a waveband indicator, also if that's the case why have a mechanical wave band indicator for a scale glass that doesn't seem to support such a feature...

I'm not saying the chassis in the OP's receiver was made by Reela but it might be a possibility, the Clairton label being a rebadge for another supplier of receivers, I picked that link to highlight some similarities.

Maybe the only thing Pye about it is the scale glass?

Lawrence.

[See_Mos]

Quite possibly, just after WW2 parts were in short supply and all sorts of sets were put together using surplus or old stock. I have a GEC post war set made using a pre war cabinet and speaker. The valves are international octal and the chassis has obviously been used for a different model.

Back to the Pye, the IF valve between the two IF transformers looks odd, it does not appear to have a pin 3 but pin 3 is the anode pin and is connected to the second IF.

[RastaMan0]

Originally Posted by Station X

RastaMan0

What valves/tubes are fitted in you set?

more photo

[Herald1360]

There's a 5Y3GT rectifier and a 6U7GM RF pentode IF amplifier but the other type numbers are not visible in the photos.

[ms660]

The first one might be a 6Q7G, the output valve is a 6K6G, hard to say if that was originally fitted, the 6V6G was the more usual call.

Lawrence.

[See_Mos]

OK, the 5Y3 goes next to the transformer.

Do you need help on how to test and repair your radio?

[ms660]

Another possibility for the first one might be the 6R7G.

Lawrence.

[RastaMan0]

Originally Posted by Herald1360

There's a 5Y3GT rectifier and a 6U7GM RF pentode IF amplifier but the other type numbers are not visible in the photos.

i take more photo )
tommorow.

[Herald1360]

Likely valve type numbers will start off 6....... or E........